i am fine with that b/c the choose the wii first, and that still a sale for nintendo

@ Kasz216

Actiually I think this was the reasoning I gave earlier within this thread. An adult will much more readily buy the console they want, kids however need to paperboy many hours after school to pay for one or would often need to go into overtime sucking up to or constantly nag their parents to push them into buying a 600 Euro entertainment system for them.



IMO this mainly comes into play when next gen hardware sales reach PSX or PS2 levels. Currently all the next gen console systems combined are still a minority with regard to playtime enjoyed on last gen consoles, we are so very early into this generation.

MicroSoft and even Sony are so cynical of Wii !

Going to the xbox360 is more like failing than graduating !

It offers better graphics but at the serious loss the games have no variety unless you consider FPS games to be the only important type Worse still no motion sensing of any kind at all on the 360 how can that be an upgrade. Wii has far superior variety of games and playing styles, and intuitive motion sensing.
PS3 MAY offer a better upgrade path - since you get a blu-ray player & HD graphics & Inertial motion sensing - (wii also has a IR positioning which Ps3 does not however ), and variety wise Ps3 has greater variety of games too.
Compare HV bowling to Wii bowling !
Both have lego starwars with motion steering etc (ps3 version does not have motion lightsabre but the wii version's lightsabre was not done properly either ).
Other amusing motion sensing games also are on Ps3 loco-roro correchio,run-a-dub ,toy-home etc.

I think In spite of Sixaxis motion sensing Sony are pretty unsupportive of implementing decent motion sensing options in games they hype it more than they implement it properly.  I dont have Wii but believe Wii motion support in games is taken more seriously now;

Sony should work to improve sixaxis motion sensing support options in the PS3 firmware , and games if they ever want people to see the Ps3 as the WiiPS3.

 

Avinash_Tyagi said: You don't graduate from Harvard to go work at McDonalds

Agreed. The Xbox 360 is the flunky of this generation. It may have good software -- which Microsoft is very lucky for -- but the hardware just sucks. There's no way I'm moving from a Wii to a 360, but I will likely augment my Wii experience with a PS3 just as soon as I can justify the purchase.

Microsoft's problem is that they don't innovate, they copy.  It's all they're capable of.  They've been doing it with their core business model, and they're branching out and doing it in all other areas.  

I've been gaming for over 20 years.  I used to get very excited about graphical jumps -- the new Quake or Unreal engine, the move to GPUs, new shader models, etc.  That's worn down for me now.  Graphical improvements are an inevitability, not an innovation.  There's zero innovation in the 360. 

Considering when ever I pass a kiosk for the 360 its a 12-14 year old playing it and when ever I pass a Wii kiosk its a 20 something dude, I think graduating goes the otherway.

MikeB said: @ Kasz216 I also disagree that many children around 10-16 wouldn't want a PS3, they just don't expect to get one because of it's price or some other reason. Actiually I think this was the reasoning I gave earlier within this thread. An adult will much more readily buy the console they want, kids however need to paperboy many hours after school to pay for one or would often need to go into overtime sucking up to or constantly nag their parents to push them into buying a 600 Euro entertainment system for them. You also haven't found anyway to discount the fact that many of the people surveyed already likely had a Wii or 360. IMO this mainly comes into play when next gen hardware sales reach PSX or PS2 levels. Currently all the next gen console systems combined are still a minority with regard to playtime enjoyed on last gen consoles, we are so very early into this generation.

 

Just because they can't afford it and don't think it's plausable doesn't mean they don't want it. I'd love to get 500 thousand dollars worth of sony stock as a gift... yet i wouldn't put it on my top 10 list.

Also mainly comes into play... yet still does now. PS3 has sold about 130, Gamecube and Xbox about 40, that's 210... consoles. Now lets keep in mind dual console ownership almost definitly increases as time goes on. Now consider the sample size of that survey was 2000. Seems obvious that there could be sampling bias anywhere. Though at the time it was something like what... 2-3 times as likely on Wii and 360? Add in people interested in dual consoles who would perfer the more expensive one because that would make it basically free allowing them to go dual console when it usually isn't financially possible or at the least finiacially smart for some people, (much more common among these men.)

Not to mention you don't even know the numbers between the three consoles. Out of 2000 people they might be surprisingly slim considering any of the infinite of number of things out there. The confidence interval on that survey must be a joke.

Basically anyone who takes a survey about "gift wants" and uses it to try and prove "purchasing intent" is really off base. This is definitly the case when taking in to account that you can't even see the hard numbers or their processes section.

Let alone off of a survey which is one of the weakest forms of consumer psychology research. (Some would say the weakest, though I think some qualitative forms can be weaker due to flaws in the excution. Trust me trying to pull of a qualitive branching research is one of the hardest tasks you can undertake do to most people being too damn ambigious.)

If I turned in a hypothisis based on that data even in the first steps of random info gathering i'd of been laughed out of Marketing Research 301. 

Don't hate Microsoft for their stupid comments.

They are just confused, they don't know how to operate in a market they can't manipulate with their monopoly.

Maybe one day they'll learn to innovate and then they'll have something interesting to say.

Girl Gamer Elite said: Considering when ever I pass a kiosk for the 360 its a 12-14 year old playing it and when ever I pass a Wii kiosk its a 20 something dude, I think graduating goes the otherway.

She nailed it. When I go to GameStop (I'm 26 btw) I like to play with the Wii. However,kids also want to play with the Wii. In fact, everyone that goes into a store where there's a playable Wii really want to p.ay with the Wii. The Wii is like Guitar Hero and Rockband, everyone wants to play it. And that's why its a success. Now that's official that Nintendo won, how about you all that don't have it upgrade to a TRUE videogame system?

Girl Gamer Elite said: Considering when ever I pass a kiosk for the 360 its a 12-14 year old playing it and when ever I pass a Wii kiosk its a 20 something dude, I think graduating goes the otherway.

Whenever i pass a kiosk the PS3 is broken. What the hell is with that? Every Gamestop, Best Buy and Toys R US's PS3 is broken.

I've never seen a broken wii... and only rarely see a broken 360.

I can only think of three time the PS3 wokred and one of those times the remote was broken. Did the Demo PS3's cut corners or something?

In otherwords though, i wouldn't trust Kiosks for an accurate representation, as i've seen 10 PS3 Kiosks and they've all broken and not been fixed.  

DaSimkin said: Don't hate Microsoft for their stupid comments. They are just confused, they don't know how to operate in a market they can't manipulate with their monopoly. Maybe one day they'll learn to innovate and then they'll have something interesting to say.

Bill Gates once said that all Sony does is gaming whereas Microsoft is a much more well rounded company.  It shows just how little he knows about the market, and how little he pays attention to his competitors.  

For example, right now Sony has a deal where if you sign up for a Sony line of credit you can use that card to get $100 off on a purchase of $299 or up -- this includes their video game system, which can also come with a free movie produced by Sony movie studios.

That deal alone displays far more breadth than Microsoft has been able to attain 10 years after they realized their OS/Office monopoly won't last forever.