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JayWood2010 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
J_Allard said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
J_Allard said:

LOL. Hilarious.

"i own the console i have the right to troll and derail threads!! oh yea hey i sold it"


You guys act like you cannot understand anyting. I said I've been through four 360's, but recently gave back the 360 because of its value in exclusives for the rest of its life. Basically that means nothing. 

What an ironic post.


Ironic, eh? Prove to me that it was worth keeping or stop talking. You and your buddies like Puggsly love to judge people when they never said a word in the direction of what you're thinking. Puggsly started this, so you should tell him to stop turning things into console wars.

Alright stage.  You have single handedly ruined the thread so cool it.  You completed your task, enough said.

1.  Microsoft has delivered 1st parties throughout the generation and then switched to Kinect in the last 2 years. You could say there focus is on next gen. 3rd parties which is 80% of the sells for MSFT and Sony alike has taken over the core gamers. They are satisfied.  You also mentioned a drout in the 1st party.  Halo 4 and Forza Horizons was to satisfy the 1st party and successfully did so.  Sony has only had 1 AAA game in the last 12 months as well right?  Which was GoWA.  All the others was low budgeet games that had little to no success.  So much so that Halo 4 outsold all 1st party titles for sony last year combined. The thing you have been talking about is exclusives but exclusives are actually delived at a higher rate on Xbox with 25% to PS3's 20%. not to mention timed exclusives.  Not that any of this matters since both heavily relies on third party games.  Yes Sony's firs part has been bigger with 21% compared to MSFT's 18%.  Not really a huge difference.  Sony and MSFT is very similar so the console wars can be annoying.  I say just enjoy both but instead you continue to bash.

2.  This is about an App, not games.  You have successfully stealth trolled and as usual I doubt the moderators will do anything about you completely derailing the thread.

3.  Puggsly  may not have handled it correctly but this one is all on you.  I have seen nothing but you going on and on about the Xbox and games through out this thread when it is about an app.

4. Yes MSFT mad a mistake with the RRoD.  I had two red rings but the problem has been fixed and the failure rate is down to 16%.  To bring that to retrospect the PS3 failure rate is at 12-14%.  Can't remember the exact number.  The wii was at around 8%.  Im sure you have heard of many people talk about the YLoD or Blue ray error problems.  Why?  Because it isn't uncommon.  Am i saying that MSFT didn't make a mistake?  No.  They obviously did but then again Sony's failure rates are anything but acceptable either.  It just wasnt as big at launch as the X360 so you hear less about it.  To bring that into play I believe the X360 sold 8m the first year.  Around that area.  That is a small percentage of 75m.

5. You aren't a fan of X360.  You had one but you dont like their business practice.  We get it.  You have said this in multiple threads, so give it a break now.


You didn't need to go through all of that. I didnt stealth troll anything and I expressed disappointment but admitted it could be useful. Read my posts properly. Pugsly threw off the course of the post playing Microsoft defense force when it didn't need to happen. You are picking up right where he left off.



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S.T.A.G.E. said:
JayWood2010 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
J_Allard said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
J_Allard said:

LOL. Hilarious.

"i own the console i have the right to troll and derail threads!! oh yea hey i sold it"


You guys act like you cannot understand anyting. I said I've been through four 360's, but recently gave back the 360 because of its value in exclusives for the rest of its life. Basically that means nothing. 

What an ironic post.


Ironic, eh? Prove to me that it was worth keeping or stop talking. You and your buddies like Puggsly love to judge people when they never said a word in the direction of what you're thinking. Puggsly started this, so you should tell him to stop turning things into console wars.

Alright stage.  You have single handedly ruined the thread so cool it.  You completed your task, enough said.

1.  Microsoft has delivered 1st parties throughout the generation and then switched to Kinect in the last 2 years. You could say there focus is on next gen. 3rd parties which is 80% of the sells for MSFT and Sony alike has taken over the core gamers. They are satisfied.  You also mentioned a drout in the 1st party.  Halo 4 and Forza Horizons was to satisfy the 1st party and successfully did so.  Sony has only had 1 AAA game in the last 12 months as well right?  Which was GoWA.  All the others was low budgeet games that had little to no success.  So much so that Halo 4 outsold all 1st party titles for sony last year combined. The thing you have been talking about is exclusives but exclusives are actually delived at a higher rate on Xbox with 25% to PS3's 20%. not to mention timed exclusives.  Not that any of this matters since both heavily relies on third party games.  Yes Sony's firs part has been bigger with 21% compared to MSFT's 18%.  Not really a huge difference.  Sony and MSFT is very similar so the console wars can be annoying.  I say just enjoy both but instead you continue to bash.

2.  This is about an App, not games.  You have successfully stealth trolled and as usual I doubt the moderators will do anything about you completely derailing the thread.

3.  Puggsly  may not have handled it correctly but this one is all on you.  I have seen nothing but you going on and on about the Xbox and games through out this thread when it is about an app.

4. Yes MSFT mad a mistake with the RRoD.  I had two red rings but the problem has been fixed and the failure rate is down to 16%.  To bring that to retrospect the PS3 failure rate is at 12-14%.  Can't remember the exact number.  The wii was at around 8%.  Im sure you have heard of many people talk about the YLoD or Blue ray error problems.  Why?  Because it isn't uncommon.  Am i saying that MSFT didn't make a mistake?  No.  They obviously did but then again Sony's failure rates are anything but acceptable either.  It just wasnt as big at launch as the X360 so you hear less about it.  To bring that into play I believe the X360 sold 8m the first year.  Around that area.  That is a small percentage of 75m.

5. You aren't a fan of X360.  You had one but you dont like their business practice.  We get it.  You have said this in multiple threads, so give it a break now.


You didn't need to go through all of that. I didnt stealth troll anything and I expressed disappointment but admitted it could be useful. Read my posts properly. Pugsly threw off the course of the post playing Microsoft defense force when it didn't need to happen. You are picking up right where he left off.


I responded to your 50+ comments in this thread.

And yes you kind of did.  This is your original comment.

Microsoft must really hate games. I guess this could work, but they are so not focused on games and as the years go by its just getting worse. They just want you to sit on your ass in front of their Xbox regardless of whether you game on it or not. Lets hope they show some games at E3 or at some unveiling before hand.

Now let's be honest here.  We all know what your intentions was here.  Most of what you said was not needed.  not to mention that an app has nothing to do with games or development time.  But to you this app will stop development in Black Tusk Studios, Rare, 343i, etc.  That is whatever though

To say that this wasn't stealth trolling is hilarious to me.  Your intentions are very clear from the beginning sentence "Microsoft must really hate games".  You are not fooling anybody here and by pointing fingers acting as if somebody else was wrong when you are the one that started is a little pointless.  




       

Why is Halo 5 written in his signature?



S.T.A.G.E. said:


You didn't need to go through all of that. I didnt stealth troll anything and I expressed disappointment but admitted it could be useful. Read my posts properly. Pugsly threw off the course of the post playing Microsoft defense force when it didn't need to happen. You are picking up right where he left off.





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loy310 said:

Giving their base everything but games. Who needs their 360 to order Pizza, and why not Dominos instead of Pizza Hut? Getting pizza hut to deliver is damn near impossible unless you live like a mile or less away from the restaurant.
"LARGE!!"... lol gtfoh.
Ohh and i guess this is for Gold members only?

I am actully mad about this, and i dont even own a 360, this the dumbest shit i have ever seen in the industry, it paints and validates one of the most recognized stereotype about gamers perfectly.

Why does a video game console needs to order pizza and why do i need to pay $4 a month to be able to do so?

No, it doesn't require a Gold subscription.  It does require that you have an Xbox LIVE account, however.

The console doesn't order the pizza.  You do, if you elect to use the application to place an order for pizza.

One reason you might elect to use this app, is if you're sitting down with your girlfriend or boyfriend for the evening, decide to watch a movie, and want something to eat for dinner, and you decide pizza is a good option.  Open the app, order your pizza, and start your movie.  Another, if you and your friends' impromptu gaming changed your dinner plans.  Open the app,  order your pizza, and go back to gaming.

Why Pizza Hut instead of Dominos?  Why not?  Both are international chains. 

Well, Pizza Hut is a part of Yum!, which includes Taco Bell and Kentucky Fried Chicken, and it is the largest restaurant company in the world.  Dominos is a part of Bain Capitol.  Pizza Hut is the larger chain, offering more franchises across the globe, so if the app goes global it'd be an easy fit.

I'd love to see the ability to order from Jimmy Johns, to be honest.  So freaky, so fast!



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JayWood2010 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
JayWood2010 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
J_Allard said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
J_Allard said:

LOL. Hilarious.

"i own the console i have the right to troll and derail threads!! oh yea hey i sold it"


You guys act like you cannot understand anyting. I said I've been through four 360's, but recently gave back the 360 because of its value in exclusives for the rest of its life. Basically that means nothing. 

What an ironic post.


Ironic, eh? Prove to me that it was worth keeping or stop talking. You and your buddies like Puggsly love to judge people when they never said a word in the direction of what you're thinking. Puggsly started this, so you should tell him to stop turning things into console wars.

Alright stage.  You have single handedly ruined the thread so cool it.  You completed your task, enough said.

1.  Microsoft has delivered 1st parties throughout the generation and then switched to Kinect in the last 2 years. You could say there focus is on next gen. 3rd parties which is 80% of the sells for MSFT and Sony alike has taken over the core gamers. They are satisfied.  You also mentioned a drout in the 1st party.  Halo 4 and Forza Horizons was to satisfy the 1st party and successfully did so.  Sony has only had 1 AAA game in the last 12 months as well right?  Which was GoWA.  All the others was low budgeet games that had little to no success.  So much so that Halo 4 outsold all 1st party titles for sony last year combined. The thing you have been talking about is exclusives but exclusives are actually delived at a higher rate on Xbox with 25% to PS3's 20%. not to mention timed exclusives.  Not that any of this matters since both heavily relies on third party games.  Yes Sony's firs part has been bigger with 21% compared to MSFT's 18%.  Not really a huge difference.  Sony and MSFT is very similar so the console wars can be annoying.  I say just enjoy both but instead you continue to bash.

2.  This is about an App, not games.  You have successfully stealth trolled and as usual I doubt the moderators will do anything about you completely derailing the thread.

3.  Puggsly  may not have handled it correctly but this one is all on you.  I have seen nothing but you going on and on about the Xbox and games through out this thread when it is about an app.

4. Yes MSFT mad a mistake with the RRoD.  I had two red rings but the problem has been fixed and the failure rate is down to 16%.  To bring that to retrospect the PS3 failure rate is at 12-14%.  Can't remember the exact number.  The wii was at around 8%.  Im sure you have heard of many people talk about the YLoD or Blue ray error problems.  Why?  Because it isn't uncommon.  Am i saying that MSFT didn't make a mistake?  No.  They obviously did but then again Sony's failure rates are anything but acceptable either.  It just wasnt as big at launch as the X360 so you hear less about it.  To bring that into play I believe the X360 sold 8m the first year.  Around that area.  That is a small percentage of 75m.

5. You aren't a fan of X360.  You had one but you dont like their business practice.  We get it.  You have said this in multiple threads, so give it a break now.


You didn't need to go through all of that. I didnt stealth troll anything and I expressed disappointment but admitted it could be useful. Read my posts properly. Pugsly threw off the course of the post playing Microsoft defense force when it didn't need to happen. You are picking up right where he left off.


I responded to your 50+ comments in this thread.

And yes you kind of did.  This is your original comment.

Microsoft must really hate games. I guess this could work, but they are so not focused on games and as the years go by its just getting worse. They just want you to sit on your ass in front of their Xbox regardless of whether you game on it or not. Lets hope they show some games at E3 or at some unveiling before hand.

Now let's be honest here.  We all know what your intentions was here.  Most of what you said was not needed.  not to mention that an app has nothing to do with games or development time.  But to you this app will stop development in Black Tusk Studios, Rare, 343i, etc.  That is whatever though



To say that this wasn't stealth trolling is hilarious to me.  Your intentions are very clear from the beginning sentence "Microsoft must really hate games".  You are not fooling anybody here and by pointing fingers acting as if somebody else was wrong when you are the one that started is a little pointless.  

1. Whats wrong with expressing disappointment in yet another app in a year with drought of first party?

2. Black Tusk Studios will have no effect on the 360.

3. Im not stealth trolling, you guys are just wayyyyy too defensive.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
JayWood2010 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
JayWood2010 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
J_Allard said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
J_Allard said:

LOL. Hilarious.

"i own the console i have the right to troll and derail threads!! oh yea hey i sold it"


You guys act like you cannot understand anyting. I said I've been through four 360's, but recently gave back the 360 because of its value in exclusives for the rest of its life. Basically that means nothing. 

What an ironic post.


Ironic, eh? Prove to me that it was worth keeping or stop talking. You and your buddies like Puggsly love to judge people when they never said a word in the direction of what you're thinking. Puggsly started this, so you should tell him to stop turning things into console wars.

Alright stage.  You have single handedly ruined the thread so cool it.  You completed your task, enough said.

1.  Microsoft has delivered 1st parties throughout the generation and then switched to Kinect in the last 2 years. You could say there focus is on next gen. 3rd parties which is 80% of the sells for MSFT and Sony alike has taken over the core gamers. They are satisfied.  You also mentioned a drout in the 1st party.  Halo 4 and Forza Horizons was to satisfy the 1st party and successfully did so.  Sony has only had 1 AAA game in the last 12 months as well right?  Which was GoWA.  All the others was low budgeet games that had little to no success.  So much so that Halo 4 outsold all 1st party titles for sony last year combined. The thing you have been talking about is exclusives but exclusives are actually delived at a higher rate on Xbox with 25% to PS3's 20%. not to mention timed exclusives.  Not that any of this matters since both heavily relies on third party games.  Yes Sony's firs part has been bigger with 21% compared to MSFT's 18%.  Not really a huge difference.  Sony and MSFT is very similar so the console wars can be annoying.  I say just enjoy both but instead you continue to bash.

2.  This is about an App, not games.  You have successfully stealth trolled and as usual I doubt the moderators will do anything about you completely derailing the thread.

3.  Puggsly  may not have handled it correctly but this one is all on you.  I have seen nothing but you going on and on about the Xbox and games through out this thread when it is about an app.

4. Yes MSFT mad a mistake with the RRoD.  I had two red rings but the problem has been fixed and the failure rate is down to 16%.  To bring that to retrospect the PS3 failure rate is at 12-14%.  Can't remember the exact number.  The wii was at around 8%.  Im sure you have heard of many people talk about the YLoD or Blue ray error problems.  Why?  Because it isn't uncommon.  Am i saying that MSFT didn't make a mistake?  No.  They obviously did but then again Sony's failure rates are anything but acceptable either.  It just wasnt as big at launch as the X360 so you hear less about it.  To bring that into play I believe the X360 sold 8m the first year.  Around that area.  That is a small percentage of 75m.

5. You aren't a fan of X360.  You had one but you dont like their business practice.  We get it.  You have said this in multiple threads, so give it a break now.


You didn't need to go through all of that. I didnt stealth troll anything and I expressed disappointment but admitted it could be useful. Read my posts properly. Pugsly threw off the course of the post playing Microsoft defense force when it didn't need to happen. You are picking up right where he left off.


I responded to your 50+ comments in this thread.

And yes you kind of did.  This is your original comment.

Microsoft must really hate games. I guess this could work, but they are so not focused on games and as the years go by its just getting worse. They just want you to sit on your ass in front of their Xbox regardless of whether you game on it or not. Lets hope they show some games at E3 or at some unveiling before hand.

Now let's be honest here.  We all know what your intentions was here.  Most of what you said was not needed.  not to mention that an app has nothing to do with games or development time.  But to you this app will stop development in Black Tusk Studios, Rare, 343i, etc.  That is whatever though



To say that this wasn't stealth trolling is hilarious to me.  Your intentions are very clear from the beginning sentence "Microsoft must really hate games".  You are not fooling anybody here and by pointing fingers acting as if somebody else was wrong when you are the one that started is a little pointless.  

1. Whats wrong with expressing disappointment in yet another app in a year with drought of first party?

2. Black Tusk Studios will have no effect on the 360.

3. Im not stealth trolling, you guys are just wayyyyy too defensive.


1. Apps are made all the time and has no effect on game development.  You should know this.

2.  Read what I said again.  It has been obvious that MSFT is focusing 1st parties on next-gen as well as sony.  Third parties bring games out left and right for both of them.  3rd party sells more than 1st party.  

3.  Deny it, idc.  Still does not change that you have derailed this thread.  

Here is my opinion.  The app seems ok, but honestly i dont care about it.  Enough said.  You went on about games when it was not about games.  What was the need in saying things about games unless trolling huh?  If you was dissapointed in the app then why not state that?    Why mention games at all?  Sounds like you dont even have a clue.  Just simple trolling Goodnight.  




       

JayWood2010 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
J_Allard said:

Alright stage.  You have single handedly ruined the thread so cool it.  You completed your task, enough said.

1.  Microsoft has delivered 1st parties throughout the generation and then switched to Kinect in the last 2 years. You could say there focus is on next gen. 3rd parties which is 80% of the sells for MSFT and Sony alike has taken over the core gamers. They are satisfied.  You also mentioned a drout in the 1st party.  Halo 4 and Forza Horizons was to satisfy the 1st party and successfully did so.  Sony has only had 1 AAA game in the last 12 months as well right?  Which was GoWA.  All the others was low budgeet games that had little to no success.  So much so that Halo 4 outsold all 1st party titles for sony last year combined. The thing you have been talking about is exclusives but exclusives are actually delived at a higher rate on Xbox with 25% to PS3's 20%. not to mention timed exclusives.  Not that any of this matters since both heavily relies on third party games.  Yes Sony's firs part has been bigger with 21% compared to MSFT's 18%.  Not really a huge difference.  Sony and MSFT is very similar so the console wars can be annoying.  I say just enjoy both but instead you continue to bash.

2.  This is about an App, not games.  You have successfully stealth trolled and as usual I doubt the moderators will do anything about you completely derailing the thread.

3.  Puggsly  may not have handled it correctly but this one is all on you.  I have seen nothing but you going on and on about the Xbox and games through out this thread when it is about an app.

4. Yes MSFT mad a mistake with the RRoD.  I had two red rings but the problem has been fixed and the failure rate is down to 16%.  To bring that to retrospect the PS3 failure rate is at 12-14%.  Can't remember the exact number.  The wii was at around 8%.  Im sure you have heard of many people talk about the YLoD or Blue ray error problems.  Why?  Because it isn't uncommon.  Am i saying that MSFT didn't make a mistake?  No.  They obviously did but then again Sony's failure rates are anything but acceptable either.  It just wasnt as big at launch as the X360 so you hear less about it.  To bring that into play I believe the X360 sold 8m the first year.  Around that area.  That is a small percentage of 75m.

5. You aren't a fan of X360.  You had one but you dont like their business practice.  We get it.  You have said this in multiple threads, so give it a break now.

Actually back in 2008 and 2009 he was exactly the same way against the PS3 when he loved his 360. I don't see the need for such absolute extremes but that's just his way I guess.

@Loy: Why is an optional feature unwanted. Why do you and so many others hate options?

This is a non-issue and you people really need to stop getting so uppity. 



Honestly, I like the idea...



JayWood2010 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
JayWood2010 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
JayWood2010 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
J_Allard said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
J_Allard said:

LOL. Hilarious.

"i own the console i have the right to troll and derail threads!! oh yea hey i sold it"


You guys act like you cannot understand anyting. I said I've been through four 360's, but recently gave back the 360 because of its value in exclusives for the rest of its life. Basically that means nothing. 

What an ironic post.


Ironic, eh? Prove to me that it was worth keeping or stop talking. You and your buddies like Puggsly love to judge people when they never said a word in the direction of what you're thinking. Puggsly started this, so you should tell him to stop turning things into console wars.

Alright stage.  You have single handedly ruined the thread so cool it.  You completed your task, enough said.

1.  Microsoft has delivered 1st parties throughout the generation and then switched to Kinect in the last 2 years. You could say there focus is on next gen. 3rd parties which is 80% of the sells for MSFT and Sony alike has taken over the core gamers. They are satisfied.  You also mentioned a drout in the 1st party.  Halo 4 and Forza Horizons was to satisfy the 1st party and successfully did so.  Sony has only had 1 AAA game in the last 12 months as well right?  Which was GoWA.  All the others was low budgeet games that had little to no success.  So much so that Halo 4 outsold all 1st party titles for sony last year combined. The thing you have been talking about is exclusives but exclusives are actually delived at a higher rate on Xbox with 25% to PS3's 20%. not to mention timed exclusives.  Not that any of this matters since both heavily relies on third party games.  Yes Sony's firs part has been bigger with 21% compared to MSFT's 18%.  Not really a huge difference.  Sony and MSFT is very similar so the console wars can be annoying.  I say just enjoy both but instead you continue to bash.

2.  This is about an App, not games.  You have successfully stealth trolled and as usual I doubt the moderators will do anything about you completely derailing the thread.

3.  Puggsly  may not have handled it correctly but this one is all on you.  I have seen nothing but you going on and on about the Xbox and games through out this thread when it is about an app.

4. Yes MSFT mad a mistake with the RRoD.  I had two red rings but the problem has been fixed and the failure rate is down to 16%.  To bring that to retrospect the PS3 failure rate is at 12-14%.  Can't remember the exact number.  The wii was at around 8%.  Im sure you have heard of many people talk about the YLoD or Blue ray error problems.  Why?  Because it isn't uncommon.  Am i saying that MSFT didn't make a mistake?  No.  They obviously did but then again Sony's failure rates are anything but acceptable either.  It just wasnt as big at launch as the X360 so you hear less about it.  To bring that into play I believe the X360 sold 8m the first year.  Around that area.  That is a small percentage of 75m.

5. You aren't a fan of X360.  You had one but you dont like their business practice.  We get it.  You have said this in multiple threads, so give it a break now.


You didn't need to go through all of that. I didnt stealth troll anything and I expressed disappointment but admitted it could be useful. Read my posts properly. Pugsly threw off the course of the post playing Microsoft defense force when it didn't need to happen. You are picking up right where he left off.


I responded to your 50+ comments in this thread.

And yes you kind of did.  This is your original comment.

Microsoft must really hate games. I guess this could work, but they are so not focused on games and as the years go by its just getting worse. They just want you to sit on your ass in front of their Xbox regardless of whether you game on it or not. Lets hope they show some games at E3 or at some unveiling before hand.

Now let's be honest here.  We all know what your intentions was here.  Most of what you said was not needed.  not to mention that an app has nothing to do with games or development time.  But to you this app will stop development in Black Tusk Studios, Rare, 343i, etc.  That is whatever though



To say that this wasn't stealth trolling is hilarious to me.  Your intentions are very clear from the beginning sentence "Microsoft must really hate games".  You are not fooling anybody here and by pointing fingers acting as if somebody else was wrong when you are the one that started is a little pointless.  

1. Whats wrong with expressing disappointment in yet another app in a year with drought of first party?

2. Black Tusk Studios will have no effect on the 360.

3. Im not stealth trolling, you guys are just wayyyyy too defensive.


1. Apps are made all the time and has no effect on game development.  You should know this.

2.  Read what I said again.  It has been obvious that MSFT is focusing 1st parties on next-gen as well as sony.  Third parties bring games out left and right for both of them.  3rd party sells more than 1st party.  

3.  Deny it, idc.  Still does not change that you have derailed this thread.  

Here is my opinion.  The app seems ok, but honestly i dont care about it.  Enough said.  You went on about games when it was not about games.  What was the need in saying things about games unless trolling huh?  If you was dissapointed in the app then why not state that?    Why mention games at all?  Sounds like you dont even have a clue.  Just simple trolling Goodnight.  


So when I said the app could work, that means nothing right? You guys just love to create major negatives over something that was nowhere what it seemed.

P.S.

In response to number two, since when did any third party on the 360 outsell Halo 4 last year outside of COD?