this is the second thread of the "what a moment" threads i am making, apperantly they are a for me now. anyways the moment i will be discussing is from the exellent red dead redemption, the only thing revealed here will be a side mission, yes my guilty moment happens in a side mission, so only spoilers from this particular side mission will be talked about

The moment in the picture above happens in red dead redemption in the "water and honesty" stranger (side) mission. for those who played the side mission skip this paragaph as you know what the side mission is. for those who havent played the game let me explain what the side mission is. in the early stages of the game i will be making my way to a city named armadillo, while on the way i see on the map a sine for a question mark, i go to it and i meet a guy camping, i go up to him and talk to him. basically the side mission starts and the man asks me to go to a place up on the hill and buy a piece of land for him, he will give me a reward if i get him the deed for the land.

once i reach the house of the old man i am greated with him pointing a gun at my face thinking im a rober wanting to rob him, john(the main character) though proceeds to calm him down and explain to him that he just wants to buy a piece of land. the guy is listening and willing to sell, i am left with two options, give him 200 bucks and buy the land, or kill him and just take the deed. i thought to my self why would i spend 200 bucks just for a stranger who wont pay me back? why shouldnt i just kill the guy? and thats what i did, i took out my gun and killed him in cold blood. 

i took the deed off of him, took the bullets of his rifle,while my honor level went down and then went on my way back. and at that moment, i felt something i never felt before while playing a video game, i felt guilty. why did i kill him? was it really worth 200 bucks? killing an old man? i honestly regreted it. the old man was afraid that i was going there to rob him, after i assured to him that i wasnt i betrayed him, and not only robbed his land, but robbed him of his life. and wow was i guilty.

i was thinking to my self while i was on my way back to the man who sent me that atleast he will be greatful, ill get my reward and he will thank me. once i handed him the deed, the guy noticed the old mans blood on it and figured out what happened. he got angry, yelled at me for taking the guys life and said it wasnt worth it, and at that moment i felt even more guilty.

that moment basically changed what i believed was possible in video games. i felt something, something other than "this is fun" or "im so angry". red dead redemption made me feel sad, angry, happy, confused, guilty and disgusted. it literally changed the way i play video games and the way i see them. that moment was one of the many amazing moments in the game, if you havent played the game yet, i urge you to do so.

if anybody is interested in my first "what a moment" thread here is the link, its about a moment in super mario 64 http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=158840&page=1

Shame on you!

So...what happened next? Did you kill the guy you gave the deed to as well?

no i felt too guilty, actually that side mission changed the entire way i played the game. i always chose the "right" thing to do and helped the random people who came up to me for help

im sorry i failed you princess!

So there was no consequence for murdering this guy other than guilt? 

the game has this honor system, if i do bad things i my honor level goes down and i do good thing it good up. my honor decreased. the honor system does affect the game in a minor way, depending on your honor and fame in the game when dealing with shops it can negativly or postivaly effect the deals you get from them, depending on what city you are in.

but honestly thats the beauty of the game i wouldnt have cared much if they took money from me or put me in jail for a day. but they made me feel guilty like i honestly did something bad. another thing that i found out by accident, if i did buy the deed from him the guy would have rewarded me with a lot more money, so by doing the bad thing i didnt get much out of it, i was greedy and got nothing from it

I always feel guilt when I try to chose the dark side. In kotor, red dead, even gta, not elder scrolls for some reason... My guilt always prevented me from enjoying that side of a game. It really pisses me off. I've had to restart mission b/c I felt bad?  Elder scrolls actually rewards you when you are bad so my conscience is clean

i remember once in skyrim i was walking and this messenger came up to me, he handed me an inviation to the opening of a "new museum". i was curious, this guy out of no where hands me an invite, so i decided to go. the damn thing was soooo far away, but i went, in the way i dragon came out of no where almost killed me, and them a bunch of people came out and attacked me and i almost died as well. 

after i reached the very far away city i reached the "museum" i enterted and it was just a small cabon with a bunch of crappy (rather worthless) stuff from the owners family, and he started to explain about his heritage and shit, and wanted me to do stuff for him. i was furious! i spent so long walking to the damn place and almost got killed a couple of times for this shit?! i killed the guy with the strongest weapon i had, stole his precious "museum" and stole every damn thing in the place and walked out. not a tad of guilt did i feel, actually it was the best moment for me playing the game