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DirtyP2002 on 09 May 2013
Soundwave said:
DirtyP2002 said:

Anybody care to explain:

 

"Sales decreased 12.2% year-on-year (a 15% decrease on a constant currency basis) to 707.1 billion yen (7,522
million U.S. dollars). Sales to external customers decreased 22.5% year-on-year. This significant decrease was
primarily due to a decrease in unit sales of PlayStation®3 (“PS3”) hardware and PSP® (PlayStation Portable)
(“PSP”) hardware and software, as well as PlayStation®Vita (“PS Vita”) hardware, partially offset by the favorable
impact of foreign exchange rates."


Erm, sounds like they sold fewer PS3s + PSPs and Vita sold poorly, but the lower sales were offset somewhat by a dropping yen.

My thoughts exactly. So when PS3 and PS Vita are actually down YoY and the total number of consoles shipped is up - WTF is the PS2 doing?!



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ethomaz on 09 May 2013

DirtyP2002 said:

My thoughts exactly. So when PS3 and PS Vita are actually down YoY and the total number of consoles shipped is up - WTF is the PS2 doing?!

Wait... the PS3 + PS2 is UP in the quarter... for the year they are DOWN 8%  (18 million to 16.5 million).

The text you quoted is about the full fiscal year... not the quarter.



Soundwave on 09 May 2013
DirtyP2002 said:
Soundwave said:
DirtyP2002 said:

Anybody care to explain:

 

"Sales decreased 12.2% year-on-year (a 15% decrease on a constant currency basis) to 707.1 billion yen (7,522
million U.S. dollars). Sales to external customers decreased 22.5% year-on-year. This significant decrease was
primarily due to a decrease in unit sales of PlayStation®3 (“PS3”) hardware and PSP® (PlayStation Portable)
(“PSP”) hardware and software, as well as PlayStation®Vita (“PS Vita”) hardware, partially offset by the favorable
impact of foreign exchange rates."


Erm, sounds like they sold fewer PS3s + PSPs and Vita sold poorly, but the lower sales were offset somewhat by a dropping yen.

My thoughts exactly. So when PS3 and PS Vita are actually down YoY and the total number of consoles shipped is up - WTF is the PS2 doing?!

Perhaps they are selling PS2s in bulk to an external distributor that will sell the systems in developing markets? *shrugs*.

EDIT: From above it looks like you just mixed up the quartly and full fiscal year. For the full fiscal year, Sony was indeed down on the PS3 and PSP. So that's not good.



Max King of the Wild on 09 May 2013
DirtyP2002 said:

Anybody care to explain:

 

"Sales decreased 12.2% year-on-year (a 15% decrease on a constant currency basis) to 707.1 billion yen (7,522
million U.S. dollars). Sales to external customers decreased 22.5% year-on-year. This significant decrease was
primarily due to a decrease in unit sales of PlayStation®3 (“PS3”) hardware and PSP® (PlayStation Portable)
(“PSP”) hardware and software, as well as PlayStation®Vita (“PS Vita”) hardware, partially offset by the favorable
impact of foreign exchange rates."


They are talking about revenue. PSP sold less HW and SW to lower revenue and PSV/Ps3 sold less HW for less revenue. Ps2 is probably selling 3.6mil and that would still lower Ps3 by 1mil



ethomaz on 09 May 2013

Soundwave said:

Perhaps they are selling PS2s in bulk to an external distributor that will sell the systems in developing markets? *shrugs*.

B b b ut somebody said to me in this thread that Sony stopped the PS2 production in December



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DirtyP2002 on 09 May 2013
ethomaz said:

DirtyP2002 said:

My thoughts exactly. So when PS3 and PS Vita are actually down YoY and the total number of consoles shipped is up - WTF is the PS2 doing?!

Wait... the PS3 + PS2 is UP in the quarter... for the year they are DOWN 8%  (18 million to 16.5 million).

The text you quoted is about the full fiscal year... not the quarter.

Thanks.

Any idea how PS2 / PS3 went from being down 10% YoY to 35% up during the slowest Q of the year?



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SOLIDSNAKE08 on 09 May 2013
DirtyP2002 said:
ethomaz said:

DirtyP2002 said:

My thoughts exactly. So when PS3 and PS Vita are actually down YoY and the total number of consoles shipped is up - WTF is the PS2 doing?!

Wait... the PS3 + PS2 is UP in the quarter... for the year they are DOWN 8%  (18 million to 16.5 million).

The text you quoted is about the full fiscal year... not the quarter.

Thanks.

Any idea how PS2 / PS3 went from being down 10% YoY to 35% up during the slowest Q of the year?

yes, by dominating.



DirtyP2002 on 09 May 2013

btw. I can't stand Sony for mixing up the consoles and handhelds.



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Soundwave on 09 May 2013

So basically if I'm reading that right, Sony's entire game division for the fiscal year made approximately $17 million (USD) in operating income (profit)?



DirtyP2002 on 09 May 2013
SOLIDSNAKE08 said:
DirtyP2002 said:
ethomaz said:

DirtyP2002 said:

My thoughts exactly. So when PS3 and PS Vita are actually down YoY and the total number of consoles shipped is up - WTF is the PS2 doing?!

Wait... the PS3 + PS2 is UP in the quarter... for the year they are DOWN 8%  (18 million to 16.5 million).

The text you quoted is about the full fiscal year... not the quarter.

Thanks.

Any idea how PS2 / PS3 went from being down 10% YoY to 35% up during the slowest Q of the year?

yes, by dominating.


any educated information?



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