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Forums - Microsoft - Paul Thurrott weighed in on the NeXtbox rumors shared some info from his sources

"500$ for a normal unit, or 300$ for a subscription model.
It was also relayed to him that the device does indeed require a constant internet connection to function.

He also mentions that nothing that he has read about the next Xbox sounded negative to him"

So a high price with a stupid feature doesn't sound negative?



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nnodley said:
AbbathTheGrim said:
You guys shouldn't get ahead of yourselves and think that with an announcement we will finally see if whether the Nextbox will need always online to play games. We may even need to wait a little longer than that if they decide not to talk about it during the reveal for strategic purposes. We may even find ourselves in the situation when we would need to wait some weeks to find out, depending on how Micro approaches the reveal and if the Nextbox indeed has the online requirement.

Just bringing this into consideration as to remind people that we may not know all Xbox details with a reveal. I mean, I've known of console reveals where they don't even show the freaking console.

What the hell are you doing getting banned Abbath?  Looks like my prediction last month that you would not live till the morning or something was wrong.

Anyway, yeah I honestly don't see them announcing if it requires to be online to use at their announcement or they will put a slight bit of info in and making seem like it's not a bad thing.  I think only if the rumors are false will they say something about it.

I expect this info to be revealed (if true) once people start asking Micro directly after the reveal. Much like people asked Sony questions after the PS4 reveal. Don't try to salvage that prediction of my death, you failed miserably with it DEAL WITH IT! :P

Max King of the Wild said:
"500$ for a normal unit, or 300$ for a subscription model.
It was also relayed to him that the device does indeed require a constant internet connection to function.

He also mentions that nothing that he has read about the next Xbox sounded negative to him"

So a high price with a stupid feature doesn't sound negative?

If he is a fan of Xbox it makes sense that he won't find anything negative about it. If he already pays for Live, a subscription is nothing to him as he would be paying for something he already pays for. Unless Micro raises the price for XboxLive once again. I know that Xboxfans don't complain about raises in Live prices but I bet that even they have a limit.

I think paying for subscriptions and paying for Live may be a factor for new people buying consoles and whether they find the whole pricing and purchase models acceptable.



Nintendo is selling their IPs to Microsoft and this is true because:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=221391&page=1

i think some people are putting too much faith in a low price tag for the PS4. 450$ is the lowest i can see it going

ms is not gonna exceed that. they will always have the price advantage



DigitalDevilSummoner said:
i think some people are putting too much faith in a low price tag for the PS4. 450$ is the lowest i can see it going

ms is not gonna exceed that. they will always have the price advantage


The only way Micro can have a price advantage is by having the subscription model, having Kinect 2 separate from the console, having Kinect 2 in the console but having weaker hardware, or taking and planing how to absorb a hit for loses. I think they can absorb losses per console, to a greater extent than Sony at this moment.



Nintendo is selling their IPs to Microsoft and this is true because:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=221391&page=1

AbbathTheGrim said:
nnodley said:
AbbathTheGrim said:
You guys shouldn't get ahead of yourselves and think that with an announcement we will finally see if whether the Nextbox will need always online to play games. We may even need to wait a little longer than that if they decide not to talk about it during the reveal for strategic purposes. We may even find ourselves in the situation when we would need to wait some weeks to find out, depending on how Micro approaches the reveal and if the Nextbox indeed has the online requirement.

Just bringing this into consideration as to remind people that we may not know all Xbox details with a reveal. I mean, I've known of console reveals where they don't even show the freaking console.

What the hell are you doing getting banned Abbath?  Looks like my prediction last month that you would not live till the morning or something was wrong.

Anyway, yeah I honestly don't see them announcing if it requires to be online to use at their announcement or they will put a slight bit of info in and making seem like it's not a bad thing.  I think only if the rumors are false will they say something about it.

I expect this info to be revealed (if true) once people start asking Micro directly after the reveal. Much like people asked Sony questions after the PS4 reveal. Don't try to salvage that prediction of my death, you failed miserably with it DEAL WITH IT! :P


Well, you didn't show up the next day.  I was worried.  

And even when they do announce it(if true) they will avoid anything negative about it and make it a positive.  Which all companies do, so don't jump on me people like I'm bashing MS cause I'm not.



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nnodley said:
AbbathTheGrim said:
nnodley said:
AbbathTheGrim said:
You guys shouldn't get ahead of yourselves and think that with an announcement we will finally see if whether the Nextbox will need always online to play games. We may even need to wait a little longer than that if they decide not to talk about it during the reveal for strategic purposes. We may even find ourselves in the situation when we would need to wait some weeks to find out, depending on how Micro approaches the reveal and if the Nextbox indeed has the online requirement.

Just bringing this into consideration as to remind people that we may not know all Xbox details with a reveal. I mean, I've known of console reveals where they don't even show the freaking console.

What the hell are you doing getting banned Abbath?  Looks like my prediction last month that you would not live till the morning or something was wrong.

Anyway, yeah I honestly don't see them announcing if it requires to be online to use at their announcement or they will put a slight bit of info in and making seem like it's not a bad thing.  I think only if the rumors are false will they say something about it.

I expect this info to be revealed (if true) once people start asking Micro directly after the reveal. Much like people asked Sony questions after the PS4 reveal. Don't try to salvage that prediction of my death, you failed miserably with it DEAL WITH IT! :P


Well, you didn't show up the next day.  I was worried.  

And even when they do announce it(if true) they will avoid anything negative about it and make it a positive.  Which all companies do, so don't jump on me people like I'm bashing MS cause I'm not.

I don't remember the dates correctly. Did you say that the same day I was banned? I can't remember and I am lazy as fuck as always as to go through the hassle to check this up. In the mean time I will dismiss the possibility that it was the same day because it is more convenient to my cause.

I know companies sometimes try to sell things as positive but I don't think Micro will go this way. They know that there has been negative reception for this thing so if they are going forward with it they won't announce it during the reveal so that it won't be discussed that same day. The reveal itself could be overshadowed by people discussing that Micro's console has this feature. I bet they will do as I say. They won't mention it (if it really exists) so that people focus in the console per se and then discuss it on the internet when asked.

What is the purpose of not discussing something possibly negative during a reveal when people would eventually find out anyway? Because I think the point of the reveal is to create the best news and first impression for the console. That way any aspect people may not like that much may seem little compared to the good things they found in the reveal which may very well be already engraved in their minds. The opinion of this Godless bastard.



Nintendo is selling their IPs to Microsoft and this is true because:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=221391&page=1

AbbathTheGrim said:
nnodley said:
AbbathTheGrim said:
nnodley said:
AbbathTheGrim said:
You guys shouldn't get ahead of yourselves and think that with an announcement we will finally see if whether the Nextbox will need always online to play games. We may even need to wait a little longer than that if they decide not to talk about it during the reveal for strategic purposes. We may even find ourselves in the situation when we would need to wait some weeks to find out, depending on how Micro approaches the reveal and if the Nextbox indeed has the online requirement.

Just bringing this into consideration as to remind people that we may not know all Xbox details with a reveal. I mean, I've known of console reveals where they don't even show the freaking console.

What the hell are you doing getting banned Abbath?  Looks like my prediction last month that you would not live till the morning or something was wrong.

Anyway, yeah I honestly don't see them announcing if it requires to be online to use at their announcement or they will put a slight bit of info in and making seem like it's not a bad thing.  I think only if the rumors are false will they say something about it.

I expect this info to be revealed (if true) once people start asking Micro directly after the reveal. Much like people asked Sony questions after the PS4 reveal. Don't try to salvage that prediction of my death, you failed miserably with it DEAL WITH IT! :P


Well, you didn't show up the next day.  I was worried.  

And even when they do announce it(if true) they will avoid anything negative about it and make it a positive.  Which all companies do, so don't jump on me people like I'm bashing MS cause I'm not.

I don't remember the dates correctly. Did you say that the same day I was banned? I can't remember and I am lazy as fuck as always as to go through the hassle to check this up. In the mean time I will dismiss the possibility that it was the same day because it is more convenient to my cause.

I know companies sometimes try to sell things as positive but I don't think Micro will go this way. They know that there has been negative reception for this thing so if they are going forward with it they won't announce it during the reveal so that it won't be discussed that same day. The reveal itself could be overshadowed by people discussing that Micro's console has this feature. I bet they will do as I say. They won't mention it (if it really exists) so that people focus in the console per se and then discuss it on the internet when asked.

What is the purpose of not discussing something possibly negative during a reveal when people would eventually find out anyway? Because I think the point of the reveal is to create the best news and first impression for the console. That way any aspect people may not like that much may seem little compared to the good things they found in the reveal which may very well be already engraved in their minds. The opinion of this Godless bastard.

I guess we'll see.  I feel like it's kinda odd they haven't held a conference for the nexbox yet. But, oh well time will tell all.



Maybe always on is for the lower priced one... to make sure people with subscription pay their subscription or they can't play their console?



Jazz2K said:
Maybe always on is for the lower priced one... to make sure people with subscription pay their subscription or they can't play their console?


That makes sense and its scary.



Jazz2K said:
Maybe always on is for the lower priced one... to make sure people with subscription pay their subscription or they can't play their console?

As far as I know they already put out a subscription thingy for Xbox360 and they enforced the subscription payments by only giving this service to those who provided an account from which the money was automatically extracted, or somthing like that.

Either way, I doubt they would make these two different versions.



Nintendo is selling their IPs to Microsoft and this is true because:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=221391&page=1