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Muffin31190 on 05 April 2013
J_Allard said:


 

So when you guys say "cursed" you're just talking forum fodder and sales charts? Because the N64 was a tremendous success in the market for Nintendo. Yeah Sony might have "handed Nintendo its ass" in terms of hardware sold, but they sold at a loss to do it. Something that, over their course in the market, has not done them any favors.


so yeah i dont know where you got this chart from but im pretty sure its DEAD WRONG, not trying to start an argument i would just lke to see more evidence of this graph being true cuz yeah nintendo with that much profit especially in the days of the GC and N64 is well yeah not true and sony not having that much profit in the days of the PS1 and PS2, also same with the 360 for microsoft.



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walsufnir on 05 April 2013
megaman79 said:
3rd Parties saved who now? Nintendo and Sony must be laughing their asses off at this reaction.

Ill wait to see confirmation, but its wonderful how EA and Ubisoft will come out smelling innocent, but MS is the bad guy for doing exactly what they demanded all along.

I think the decision, if true, is not based on what MS wants but what 3rd-partys said when MS was talking to them. No (non-Nintendo) console can survive without support of 3rd-party and I believe they demanded something like this.

We'll see in which way Sony and MS offer different systems and especially how this will effect sales.



M.U.G.E.N on 05 April 2013
Nsanity said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
I will note that David Jaffe defended this guy on gaf and twitter. Sounds like a good/ok guy who just had a brain fart or a venting session or something that didn't expect it to blow up so much

"Knowing Adam, he was probably fucking around with M. But I've not spoken with him- he MAY believe that, he may have just been kidding. I honestly have zero idea about that part. But I honestly hope he doesn't get fired for it. I know so many of you guys who are opposed to 'online only' don't care (and that is certainly your right) but this is a real human we are talking about with a family and trust me when I say that he's one of the good ones. You may disagree with him about this issue (assuming he really meant what he wrote- and yes, that was his responsibility to be aware of how stuff reads on Twitter and how hungry folks are for news about next-gen, especially from someone with his job title) but I assure you guys: if you knew the guy, you'd be feeling really bad for him right now and really all works out great for him.

Not asking you to change your mind or anything- just giving my perspective on it.

Thanks for reading-

David"

Was that posted on Twitter or over Neo? because i cant seem to find it anywere.

Gaf. He posted like 2-3 times on the matter

and another user pointed out that they have worked together in the past so I guess they knew each other well



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Hynad on 05 April 2013
Muffin31190 said:
J_Allard said:


 

So when you guys say "cursed" you're just talking forum fodder and sales charts? Because the N64 was a tremendous success in the market for Nintendo. Yeah Sony might have "handed Nintendo its ass" in terms of hardware sold, but they sold at a loss to do it. Something that, over their course in the market, has not done them any favors.


so yeah i dont know where you got this chart from but im pretty sure its DEAD WRONG, not trying to start an argument i would just lke to see more evidence of this graph being true cuz yeah nintendo with that much profit especially in the days of the GC and N64 is well yeah not true and sony not having that much profit in the days of the PS1 and PS2, also same with the 360 for microsoft.


If it's not true, care to provide counter evidence?



M.U.G.E.N on 05 April 2013

 

oh and also

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/04/05/microsofts-adam-orth-fans_n_3018705.html?utm_hp_ref=uk?ncid=GEP



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Sol on 05 April 2013

It's looking more and more likely that the PS4 will be my 'main' console next gen.



D-Joe on 05 April 2013

Well,more reason to fire him



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Vashyo on 05 April 2013

I certainly hope the console flops if this happens, I don't want to game in a police-state environment...ever. Do not want anyone follow this business model.

I value privacy highly and the frustration of not getting to play singleplayer games when ur interwebs are down sucks.



M.U.G.E.N on 05 April 2013

welp looks like that reddit story about sweet billy was correct 0_0

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7798809&postcount=312



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MaxwellAllen on 05 April 2013

This guy is not doing microsoft any favors by arguing with people over twitter and disparaging the south and the mid-west. These are people microsoft needs to sell consoles lol.

If microsoft's vision of an 'always on' devices means that it ONLY functions while connected to the internet - you could kiss the next gen goodbye. If you're stupid enough to actually do this, you deserve to lose. They expect us to pay for Live and always stay online. PS4 is looking MUCH better now.

The console has to function, in every way, WITHOUT an internet connection. End Of Story.