I don't necessarily trust Linkz, but I definitely haven't found anything worth picking at yet, which is generally a good sign. What do you think of prof's townread on him?
theprof00 said:
Astro had plenty to talk about. Have you even read the thread, or only page 2? Before I even checked in Astro was expressing hesitation about putting a vote on me, then after 4 hours, did so anyway, seemingly succumbing to peer pressure. There were 6 needed to lynch and he put on what he thought was the third vote (he didn't even notice Rol wasn't playing). That kind of voting is bullshit, and so innocent as to say 'everyone else was doing it, I'm new, I didn't know'. And now here you are subtly coming after me with poor reasoning, suddenly as time is winding down. To me it looks like you're trying to add some distraction, hopefully to culminate in a few votes, just so that a timelimit lynch will occur. "oh we just made a mistake, I didn't see that". And now, oh, you're suddenly interested in noctis? I wonder why that is? Because he has two votes on him already? You must be really desperate to swing this lynch to your favor, I already don't trust nacho's vote. You're scum and so is astro and nacho. |
No, he wasn't hesitant on voting you, he was complaining that people were voting when not everybody has checked in yet and then voted you. There is a difference, he then said he will vote you now after some hours have passed, which according to him has been enough time for you to check in. Prolly on the assumption that you will lurk. I don't care about if he noticed rol playing or not. I only noticed so when linkz pointed it out. And I honestly think that people who do not play should just shut up.
Yes, I am interested in Noctis because he has 2 votes on him and is the best choice out of the players that have 2 votes on them.
Nachomamma8 said:
Why do you think I am scum? |
Because everytime I have seen you town, you make an effort to write out lists with reasonings on every player, and why this meta or that meta means such and such is town or scum etc. I noticed the first scum game (last game) that you hadn't done it, and I was thinking "what's taking him, he usually does this by now"...then I think you finally posted a brief one about 3 quarters of the way through the day.
I haven't seen that usual behavior this game, and if you have, it would be conspiciously brief. Generally, your lists are quite large.
(I never really trust your reasonings on those lists, but I've come to accept the appearance of the list as being your town tell.)
Also, prof is being overly paranoid, I wasn't even trying to make him look bad there, I was just saying that I do not understand his thinking on it. Well, he really is town.
| spurgeonryan said: IF you are talking to me? I do not remember Prof ever having any sort of Read on linkz. They are both closed books to each other. They are so sneaky I bet they would not even know if each other were scum on the same team. Kind of early to for sure say who is town or not. We can just go with play. also to your first post. The Stefl comment was a joke. But I am still happy for the votals. |
If you don't see prof's townread on Linkz, then you aren't reading the game.
theprof00 said:
Because everytime I have seen you town, you make an effort to write out lists with reasonings on every player, and why this meta or that meta means such and such is town or scum etc. I noticed the first scum game (last game) that you hadn't done it, and I was thinking "what's taking him, he usually does this by now"...then I think you finally posted a brief one about 3 quarters of the way through the day. I haven't seen that usual behavior this game, and if you have, it would be conspiciously brief. Generally, your lists are quite large. (I never really trust your reasonings on those lists, but I've come to accept the appearance of the list as being your town tell.) |
Interesting observation. I'm not quite sure that my tendency was always to post those lists on D1 (and definitely not so early in the day that all of 4 people have actually decided to engage), but this makes me feel pretty good about you.
Stefl1504 said:
No, he wasn't hesitant on voting you, he was complaining that people were voting when not everybody has checked in yet and then voted you. There is a difference, he then said he will vote you now after some hours have passed, which according to him has been enough time for you to check in. Prolly on the assumption that you will lurk. I don't care about if he noticed rol playing or not. I only noticed so when linkz pointed it out. And I honestly think that people who do not play should just shut up. Yes, I am interested in Noctis because he has 2 votes on him and is the best choice out of the players that have 2 votes on them. |
He criticizes people for voting people for not showing up yet, and then votes for lurking (while even asking how did other players know prof was lurking so quickly), and then further defends his vote by saying "nobody else had 2 votes on them".
No it isn't about him not noticing Rol, that's a null tell. It's about him voting for someone who he thought had two votes, without even understanding the 'evidence' he was basing his vote on.
You write 'he was complaining that others were voting and then after some time voted because he felt like that was enough time' and call that OK. Well to me, it looks like he criticized others and then 'begrudgingly' fell into line with them. That's hypocritical. Typical mafia strategy to be wishywashy on a stance, both criticizing and conforming. Very typical.
But you seem to be interpreting him with the best of intentions, ne, stefl-chan? It is one thing to give leeway to a new player, it is another to purposely overlook that player's intentions. There is a difference.
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theprof00 said:
He criticizes people for voting people for not showing up yet, and then votes for lurking (while even asking how did other players know prof was lurking so quickly), and then further defends his vote by saying "nobody else had 2 votes on them". No it isn't about him not noticing Rol, that's a null tell. It's about him voting for someone who he thought had two votes, without even understanding the 'evidence' he was basing his vote on. You write 'he was complaining that others were voting and then after some time voted because he felt like that was enough time' and call that OK. Well to me, it looks like he criticized others and then 'begrudgingly' fell into line with them. That's hypocritical. Typical mafia strategy to be wishywashy on a stance, both criticizing and conforming. Very typical. But you seem to be interpreting him with the best of intentions, ne, stefl-chan? It is one thing to give leeway to a new player, it is another to purposely overlook that player's intentions. There is a difference. |
Yes, that is also a difference, only that the new players leeway doesn't apply to Astro any longer, he played last game, and should know how the basics work, anyway, with the current method of processing everything that has happened I won't be getting a stable picture of everything.
Afaik the 'evidence' (hue... calling that evidence) was you not having posted yet, he 'intended' (we can't proove that he did not unvote on purpose in that post) to unvote you after your first post. But calling him not understanding evidence that isn't there in the first place is kinda... weird...
I have to agree though, his wording in his vote post is quite strange. You basically can read "I am not scum, so I will vote prof" out of it, which does comply to one of my scumtells for people in general.
Well, anyway, it has been explained to me, I can understand it now. I have no longer something to critisize about it and like I already said, it spawned scummy responses, so even if it not were to be based on something understandable - his reaction sure was scummy.
| supermario128 said: Unvote Vote: Stefl Don't like his play this game. |
I agree. There's still more to comment on.
Ah, well, this is why lurkers should either not start lurking or should just shut up until they are lynched/modkilled... only thing my try at participation will have caused is more confusion... */whine mode deactivated*
Yah, there is a lot more to comment on, like Noctis' behaviour, how he not voted Astro...
Me not being able to get anything from benao, allthough he has posted enough... (all that I got from him was him lamenting spurge being quiet... when I don't really think spurge is really quiet)
Anyway, what should be marked is that I am really sure that mario and prof are both town. I was trying to get mario was my early town read and he hasn't done anything to sway me from that believe. A post from him on my post would've proven to me if he were town or not. Not answering to it was townish from him, but not as solid town as something like dispicing the post.
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