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theprof00 said:
Stefl1504 said:
theprof00 said:
Stefl1504 said:
spurgeonryan said:
You said you want to leave astro alone for now. Right?

No, I said I don't get people (prof) pushing for him. I mean, what they deemed scummy before that one post with "oh I don't need to defend myself" (so the push had it's merit) is puzzling me. No need to leave him alone.

Astro had plenty to talk about. Have you even read the thread, or only page 2? Before I even checked in Astro was expressing hesitation about putting a vote on me, then after 4 hours, did so anyway, seemingly succumbing to peer pressure. There were 6 needed to lynch and he put on what he thought was the third vote (he didn't even notice Rol wasn't playing). That kind of voting is bullshit, and so innocent as to say 'everyone else was doing it, I'm new, I didn't know'.

And now here you are subtly coming after me with poor reasoning, suddenly as time is winding down. To me it looks like you're trying to add some distraction, hopefully to culminate in a few votes, just so that a timelimit lynch will occur. "oh we just made a mistake, I didn't see that".

And now, oh, you're suddenly interested in noctis? I wonder why that is? Because he has two votes on him already? You must be really desperate to swing this lynch to your favor, I already don't trust nacho's vote.

You're scum and so is astro and nacho.
Top 5 are
stefl, astro, nacho, noctis (mario wildcard)
I trust Linkz and Spurge and will defend them both if need be.

Spurge, what do you think of stefl so far?

No, he wasn't hesitant on voting you, he was complaining that people were voting when not everybody has checked in yet and then voted you. There is a difference, he then said he will vote you now after some hours have passed, which according to him has been enough time for you to check in. Prolly on the assumption that you will lurk. I don't care about if he noticed rol playing or not. I only noticed so when linkz pointed it out. And I honestly think that people who do not play should just shut up.

Yes, I am interested in Noctis because he has 2 votes on him and is the best choice out of the players that have 2 votes on them.

He criticizes people for voting people for not showing up yet, and then votes for lurking (while even asking how did other players know prof was lurking so quickly), and then further defends his vote by saying "nobody else had 2 votes on them".

No it isn't about him not noticing Rol, that's a null tell. It's about him voting for someone who he thought had two votes, without even understanding the 'evidence' he was basing his vote on.

You write 'he was complaining that others were voting and then after some time voted because he felt like that was enough time' and call that OK. Well to me, it looks like he criticized others and then 'begrudgingly' fell into line with them. That's hypocritical. Typical mafia strategy to be wishywashy on a stance, both criticizing and conforming. Very typical.

But you seem to be interpreting him with the best of intentions, ne, stefl-chan? It is one thing to give leeway to a new player, it is another to purposely overlook that player's intentions. There is a difference.

Yes, that is also a difference, only that the new players leeway doesn't apply to Astro any longer, he played last game, and should know how the basics work, anyway, with the current method of processing everything that has happened I won't be getting a stable picture of everything.

Afaik the 'evidence' (hue... calling that evidence) was you not having posted yet, he 'intended' (we can't proove that he did not unvote on purpose in that post) to unvote you after your first post. But calling him not understanding evidence that isn't there in the first place is kinda... weird...

I have to agree though, his wording in his vote post is quite strange. You basically can read "I am not scum, so I will vote prof" out of it, which does comply to one of my scumtells for people in general.

Well, anyway, it has been explained to me, I can understand it now. I have no longer something to critisize about it and like I already said, it spawned scummy responses, so even if it not were to be based on something understandable - his reaction sure was scummy.