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Netyaroze on 31 March 2013

This whole thing is ridiculous the Inputlag Sony and Nintendo are talking of is not even visible on a video.


Wii U has what . 1/60s Inputlag ? Thats 18ms ? 0.018 seconds right ? Youtube has say 30fps thats 0.033 seconds. So everything that happens faster than 33ms will not be captured. Lets say for arguments sake Sony has a 3 times higher latency 54ms this can barely be captured thats not even 2 frames. The Input lag has to be absolutely massive to be visible on a youtube video. And your power of observation to know when the button made contact too



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Max King of the Wild on 31 March 2013

This thread was pure gold. Should be locked now and classified under a classic thread



MDMAlliance on 31 March 2013

The main problem I have with this thread is that I have no idea why the Wii U was brought up in the first place by OP. If you think that the remote play has framerate problems, talk about the actual issue and not the Wii U as they are not really things to compare.



Mmmfishtacos on 31 March 2013
cunger said:
keroncoward said:

Is it just me or does remote play between the Vita and PS4 seem like its less than 20 frames per second? In the Knack demo they showed the game looked like it was skipping frames just to keep up with the game. Check out the youtube clip and tell me what you think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYSevsR51cg


It's a nice proof of concept but it's nothing that will become widespread.

What are you talking about? It's hardware level, it will remote play all ps4 games that don't use motion controls or body tracking. Its already been stated by sony, this is a full fledged feature.



WagnerPaiva on 31 March 2013
Th3PANO said:
this is only a response to the wii u. and like the move it won't work cause not every ps 4 owner will have a vita.


But very few people have the WiiU too, actually, there are 5 million Vitas out there and only 3 million WiiUs. In my opinion this is much more a tool to boost Vita sales a little bit than a response to the WiiU.



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Th3PANO on 31 March 2013
HoloDust said:
Th3PANO said:
this is only a response to the wii u. and like the move it won't work cause not every ps 4 owner will have a vita.


Actually, it was in PS3 too, but on PS4 it's feature by defualt - devs don't need to do anything, it is suppoerted in hardware, so any game can be streamed this way to Vita (this is more like local cloud), unlike WiiU where Off-TV Play is not supported for all games.

If Sony is clever, they would release gaming tablets/tablet attachments just for this, or even let other manufacturers support Remote Play too on their qualified tablets. (effectivley making tablets like WikiPad  replace Vita)

I believe MS will probably do similar thing with their SmartGlass.

if you think this will be big then you are lying to yourself. 1. we don't even know the price of the ps4 2. you have to buy a 200 dollar vita too to play it, thats a prettey expensive remote play don't you think? ;) and people don't like it when they have to buy extra accesoires when they can get included something similiar in a different console.  sales for move are showing this, also every nintendo game before where you needed an extra accesoire sold worse.



Th3PANO on 31 March 2013
WagnerPaiva said:
Th3PANO said:
this is only a response to the wii u. and like the move it won't work cause not every ps 4 owner will have a vita.


But very few people have the WiiU too, actually, there are 5 million Vitas out there and only 3 million WiiUs. In my opinion this is much more a tool to boost Vita sales a little bit than a response to the WiiU.

There are like 3.2-3.3 million Wii U owners and 4,5 million Vita owners. The problem is developers can't actually design games for this that good cause not everybody will have a Vita. This is a huge advantage of the Wii U Gamepad. They can design what they want with it cause every owner as one. And if you think this isn't a respone then explain me the talking from sony that PS/Vita combination is so much better then Wii U. They for sure tried to downtalk the Wii U ;)



tres on 31 March 2013
keroncoward said:

Is it just me or does remote play between the Vita and PS4 seem like its less than 20 frames per second? In the Knack demo they showed the game looked like it was skipping frames just to keep up with the game. Check out the youtube clip and tell me what you think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYSevsR51cg


this is just me but shouldnt it be?  after all nintendo made it exactly for that purpose.  vita's connectivity was more of an afterthought and face it sony want to sell more vitas so theyll use the ps4 to do it.

im not that much of a gamer to care about remote play so none of it matters to me i like my  games in its widescreen glory.  but for watching movies id use it if they have it like ill use my phone with smartglass



Nem on 31 March 2013

It is obviously too early to judge this.



Lafiel on 31 March 2013
keroncoward said:

Is it just me or does remote play between the Vita and PS4 seem like its less than 20 frames per second? In the Knack demo they showed the game looked like it was skipping frames just to keep up with the game. Check out the youtube clip and tell me what you think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYSevsR51cg


it's the youtube video that is skipping frames and is totally out of sync - you can tell when the camera is on cerny

and I've seen videos of that presentation in which it all is very smooth

try this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWfjdk8LiL0 , but keep in mind that it's just a video aswell and you can expect even better real life performance than what you see there