Didn't know about that one. Around 36 million tops I guess then.

keep telling yourself that i guess.

Wiimotes still work on WiiU you know, so what the point of your question? MK doesn't use the "tablet" in a meaningful way and still everyone expect it to be a huge seller. I'm sure there are ways to create interesting asymetrical gameplays with wiimotes and the gamepad for Wii Sports but even if there aren't what the big deal?

Vita - >75 Million

Wii U -

How could a console - with no big sellers to come, an installed base of only 5 millions after 2 years and a direct competitor like the 3DS which has a huge advantage in both aspects - sell 75 millions? How could it be possible really?

maybe he's one of those guys who believe Sony made the Vita to "last" into the 9th gen with no need for a successor? XD

Just for fun a simple thought.

Let´s say PSV will have a long lifecycle like PSP did (7 years until PSV got released). This means it has to sell 14 million unit on average for the next 5 years to reach that goal.

PSV right now is at about 5.7 million units worldwide, by the end of the year it could be at around 6.5million units. Therefore  14million would be more than double of what  Sony sold in 2 years combined.

The Wii U sales will pick up over the coming 7 or 8 months but not nearly as much as many believe-
Nintendo has shown a reluctance to invest the effort and resources needed to launch a console in todays gaming market- My prediction is 18.5 million for effective lifetime sales (sales until the next Nintendo home console is launched or the Wii U is taken off the market)

I own a Wii U (bought for my 7 year old Son) We loved his Wii (bought when he was 4) and He still plays Wii games far more than Wii U games- There just are not that many quality games on the Wii U - As of today Nintendo has finally released all of the games I had assumed he would be able to begin playing between the releases date and March+/- 2013 It has taken them nearly a year to deliver the games THEY announced and advertised for launch-

IMO the reason we are not seeing a Metroid or 3D Mario Galaxy type game this holiday/next spring are due to the resources it takes to make those type games vs making a 2d Donkey Kong game and a port more or less of a 3DS game- Nintendo has the resources to invest in the console, games and marketing for the Wii U but they have clearly not been willing to invest them-

I think the big question for the wii U is what happened after Spring+/- 2014? 3rd party devs will be even more scarce than they have been so far- for good reason (they lose money releasing games on the Wii U) -

My question to the forum is: Will the Wii U see a new Zelda game at all? I think it is 50/50 they will decide to "delay" the next new Zelda game until their next home console

Unless The BOD of Nintendo directs/mandates Corporate to spend the money needed to give the Wii U a fighting chance for success or their is some kind of major Mngmt shake up- then the Wii U will be lucky to break 20 mill lifetime sales- as I predict 18.5 million lifetime sales, I don t think either of the 2 scenarios are likely during the Wii U s effective life span

Nintendo can easily absorb the losses from the Wii U- but the problem they do not see is the credibility they continue to lose among its long time fans- they will listen to the vocal minority that defend Nintendo no matter what - the ones that will slam this post and similar post, stories and view points- but it is pretty clear that group of "Nintendo is always the victim" is a shrinking group and they open their wallet rarely. Many of that group have not even bought a Wii U yet themselves as they are waiting on the games they want- but they will skewer people like me who bought one at launch and are not happy that Nintendo is showing little faith in their own product

The 3D Land design for the next 3D Mario was chosen for another reason. In fact 3D Land on 3DS has been by far the best selling 3D Mario in Japan it basically sold what Mario Galaxy 1+2 sold combined over there.

I am sure 3D Land will be a great game as will Donkey Kong- Most everyone that has a Wii U will buy both and some people will buy a Wii u to play these games along w others- but they do not represent a "fresh and exciting"" lineup for the Wii U. The Wii U does not even have 1 game that gives it an identity much less several games that do so. I think Wind Waker is generating more excitement than any games they have released to date and possibly more than 3d Land and DK. When your most exciting game is a 10 year old remake- it says something about your lineup. If they were releasing a Mario Galaxy type game, a new Zelda and a Metroid, the Wii U would be generating a lot of excitement- but as it is, they seem to be focusing on platformers and good but a little stale content- But developing the more exciting lineup takes more time and resources- I feel sure that is why they did not product the type of lineup this holiday that so many were hoping for