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Can people please stop comparing these systems.  In particular, I'm tired of the statement that Gamecube had lots of awesome games and didn't sell well, so how are games going to help WiiU.  The systems are nothing alike.

People say Mario Sunshine, Zelda: Windwaker, Smash Brothers, Luigi's Mansion, Pikmin, Metroid Prime and MarioKart DD couldn't sell Gamecube and they were amazing games.  I'm sorry, but they aren't.  Well, they may be great games, but I wouldn't know, because I didn't play them and didn't want to. I bought a PS2 instead.  And an XBox.  Mario Sunshine was a dorky name for a game with Mario using a watergun on vacation.  Zelda was a cartoon.  Metroid Prime may be amazing, but to me it looked weak and boring compared to Halo.

Now, when I saw Super Mario Galaxy, Zelda: TP and Wii Sports, I was sold on a Wii in an instant.  The realistic, epic-looking Zelda and the mind-blowing Mario Galaxy were spectacular.  Throw in New Super Mario Bros Wii for good measure and you have some serious 1st party titles that appeal to me and a lot of other people.

When it comes to Wii U, we haven't seen the major titles yet.  I would have every reason to believe that Nintendo has learned what sells and what does not, and Wii U will be receiving Wii-like titles that are system sellers.  The Mario will follow that path of Galaxy and be impressive visually and have an appealing theme.  Mario won't likely be going on vacation again, ever, especially with WiiU sales struggling.  Zelda will likely be a back-to-basics graphical showcase that sucks in core gamers.  No waterguns.  No toons.  As such, the games will likely appeal to a broad audience - the Wii audience - and move systems.

Also, the Gamecube was a purple lunchbox with a legoland controller.  I know some of you may have loved it, but most adults and many teens wouldn't touch it, rightly or wrongly.  No amount of good games could sell it.  Wii U is sleek, black (or white) and contemporary looking.  Give it games and people will be happy to have it in their living room.



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"Wii U is sleek, black (or white) and contemporary looking.  Give it games and people will be happy to have it in their living room."

the problem is that a lot of people already think they do, they just think the WiiU is an accessory



TheLastStarFighter said:

Can people please stop comparing these systems.  In particular, I'm tired of the statement that Gamecube had lots of awesome games and didn't sell well, so how are games going to help WiiU.  The systems are nothing alike.

People say Mario Sunshine, Zelda: Windwaker, Smash Brothers, Luigi's Mansion, Pikmin, Metroid Prime and MarioKart DD couldn't sell Gamecube and they were amazing games.  I'm sorry, but they aren't.  Well, they may be great games, but I wouldn't know, because I didn't play them and didn't want to. I bought a PS2 instead.  And an XBox.  Mario Sunshine was a dorky name for a game with Mario using a watergun on vacation.  Zelda was a cartoon.  Metroid Prime may be amazing, but to me it looked weak and boring compared to Halo.

Now, when I saw Super Mario Galaxy, Zelda: TP and Wii Sports, I was sold on a Wii in an instant.  The realistic, epic-looking Zelda and the mind-blowing Mario Galaxy were spectacular.  Throw in New Super Mario Bros Wii for good measure and you have some serious 1st party titles that appeal to me and a lot of other people.

When it comes to Wii U, we haven't seen the major titles yet.  I would have every reason to believe that Nintendo has learned what sells and what does not, and Wii U will be receiving Wii-like titles that are system sellers.  The Mario will follow that path of Galaxy and be impressive visually and have an appealing theme.  Mario won't likely be going on vacation again, ever, especially with WiiU sales struggling.  Zelda will likely be a back-to-basics graphical showcase that sucks in core gamers.  No waterguns.  No toons.  As such, the games will likely appeal to a broad audience - the Wii audience - and move systems.

Also, the Gamecube was a purple lunchbox with a legoland controller.  I know some of you may have loved it, but most adults and many teens wouldn't touch it, rightly or wrongly.  No amount of good games could sell it.  Wii U is sleek, black (or white) and contemporary looking.  Give it games and people will be happy to have it in their living room.

God Bless you! And in my Opinion probably the weakest Mario and Zelda games are the first gamecube - Sunshine and WWaker!



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wiiU and gamecube share the most important characteristic to wiiU's future: the shape of the sales curve.


"I would have every reason to believe that Nintendo has learned what sells and what does not, and Wii U will be receiving Wii-like titles that are system sellers."

if that were so wii wouldn't be sitting at ~1/5 of the currently weekly sales of ps3 or 360. if that were so wiiU wouldn't be sitting at less than vita's weekly sales (aligned for launch).



bananaking21 said:

"Wii U is sleek, black (or white) and contemporary looking.  Give it games and people will be happy to have it in their living room."

the problem is that a lot of people already think they do, they just think the WiiU is an accessory


Haha, so true...

Actually, true story.  When I picked up a Wii U, my GF actually asked, so how is your new Wii controller?  Sigh.  She is no gamer.  Time to kick her to the curb.



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The amount of ignorance in the OP is too damn high!



     
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TheLastStarFighter said:

People say Mario Sunshine, Zelda: Windwaker, Smash Brothers, Luigi's Mansion, Pikmin, Metroid Prime and MarioKart DD couldn't sell Gamecube and they were amazing games.  I'm sorry, but they aren't.  Well, they may be great games, but I wouldn't know, because I didn't play them and didn't want to. I bought a PS2 instead.  And an XBox.  Mario Sunshine was a dorky name for a game with Mario using a watergun on vacation.  Zelda was a cartoon.  Metroid Prime may be amazing, but to me it looked weak and boring compared to Halo.


Well, that sums up pretty well what's wrong with your arguments.



TheLastStarFighter said:
bananaking21 said:

"Wii U is sleek, black (or white) and contemporary looking.  Give it games and people will be happy to have it in their living room."

the problem is that a lot of people already think they do, they just think the WiiU is an accessory


Haha, so true...

Actually, true story.  When I picked up a Wii U, my GF actually asked, so how is your new Wii controller?  Sigh.  She is no gamer.  Time to kick her to the curb.

and thats the weird problem. nintendo's marketing for the Wii was top notch, they somehow made everyone interested in it. old people who dont care about games were interested in games. now i know that the Wii was appealing to different types of people. but their marketing team is what got that message through. now there marketing team seems to think that the best way to sell the console it compare it to the Wii and make the wii look like shit

lool so you are breaking up with a girl for not knowing the difference between the Wii and Wiiu? i agree, kick her to the curb now!



kitler53 said:
wiiU and gamecube share the most important characteristic to wiiU's future: the shape of the sales curve.


"I would have every reason to believe that Nintendo has learned what sells and what does not, and Wii U will be receiving Wii-like titles that are system sellers."

if that were so wii wouldn't be sitting at ~1/5 of the currently weekly sales of ps3 or 360. if that were so wiiU wouldn't be sitting at less than vita's weekly sales (aligned for launch).

The sales are currently weak, that's for sure.  But the point is, the games that Nintendo released for Gamecube were not system sellers.  The games they released for Wii were systemd sellers. I would expect the games for Wii U to be more like their Wii counterparts when they come.  And other than sluggish sales, there is almost nothing similar between Wii U and Gamecube, in look, design, function or games.  Their plights are very different.

Your second comment seems confused.  The games - the ones I'm saying will be in the style of Wii and not Gamecube - aren't out yet.  That, and the continued strength of PS360, are reasons for weak sales.  It has nothing to do with the games being like the Gamecube games.  They aren't, and aren't out yet.



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