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VGKing on 24 March 2013
morenoingrato said:

VGKing said:

1. it’s not exactly playable without that

2. circle pad pro atrocity… i don’t understand.

3. why would you even release a game like that on a platform like that?

4. why is it not out on let’s say… vita?

5. you know, the one where you could control the camera.

6. it’s too bad because MH looks like it’s basically phantasy star online but not in space. and i love me some PSO.

7. the whole entire thing was a mistake if you ask me.”"

How can you not agree with at least this part?

1. It is playable, and works pretty well mind you.

2. It is not an atrocity.

3. Because it's profitable and great for the gamers.

4. It's not selling well, and less people would be able to enjoy it.

5. You can do that on the 3DS version, and as I said, works pretty well if you give it a chance.

6. No idea.

7. No one asked him, and it will be proven it was not a mistake.

I've played Monster Hunter on PSP. Not being able to control the camera with a second analog stick is very annoying and was the biggest flaw in the system. No one said the 3DS version didn't work, but you can't deny that having to use an additional accessory for the 2nd analog is proof of poor design on Nintendo's part. You would think they would have fixed this with the XL model. Maybe the next one?



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RazorDragon on 24 March 2013
VGKing said:

I've played Monster Hunter on PSP. Not being able to control the camera with a second analog stick is very annoying and was the biggest flaw in the system. No one said the 3DS version didn't work, but you can't deny that having to use an additional accessory for the 2nd analog is proof of poor design on Nintendo's part. You would think they would have fixed this with the XL model. Maybe the next one?


I'm happy they never "fixed" that 2nd analog "issue" and I hope they never do, because, if they did, I and many other costumers that bought a launch 3DS would be incredibly pissed off. Also, CCP is not just a 2nd analog attachment, it has 3 other shoulder buttons. If they did add a 2nd analog to the 3DS they would have to find a way to add 3 shoulder buttons without making a 3DS feel like a Game Gear, which is probably impossible.



VGKing on 24 March 2013
tbone51 said:
Wat i dont understand is why people cant take out $20 extra for the CPP? I mean 1st of all the 3DS is more fit with just 1 anolog(even though i wish it had 2 to begin with) and while some games scream a second anolog like RE revelations and MH3U(both work good without 2nd analog either way) why cant they just buy a CPP? Complaints its more $$ but rather have it on Vita?

Well you can get 3 CPP with a 3DS and it'll be cheaper than a vita cuz you'll need to get a memory card anyway. Some people will agree with this guy only cuz MH3U is not on the platform they want. Its too bad, Get both Handhelds and if not dont complain.

I want Gravity Rush and One Piece Warriors 2. You dont hear me saying it'll be better on 3DS cuz of 2 screens. Its my problem i dont own a vita yet. Plain and Simple

It's not a price problem. It's a design problem. Some games require a 2nd analog and the CPP is Nintendo admitting to a flaw in the 3DS design.
The whole point this guy made is how they are putting a game on a platform that doesn't even make sense purely for profit. It's obvious that console-style games aren't a very good fit for the 3DS and that's what Monster Hunter is. A console-style game. Vita is perfect for console style games. Some keep bashing the Vita calling it a PS3 port machine but that's actually one of its advantages IMO. 



tbone51 on 24 March 2013
VGKing said:
morenoingrato said:

VGKing said:

1. it’s not exactly playable without that

2. circle pad pro atrocity… i don’t understand.

3. why would you even release a game like that on a platform like that?

4. why is it not out on let’s say… vita?

5. you know, the one where you could control the camera.

6. it’s too bad because MH looks like it’s basically phantasy star online but not in space. and i love me some PSO.

7. the whole entire thing was a mistake if you ask me.”"

How can you not agree with at least this part?

1. It is playable, and works pretty well mind you.

2. It is not an atrocity.

3. Because it's profitable and great for the gamers.

4. It's not selling well, and less people would be able to enjoy it.

5. You can do that on the 3DS version, and as I said, works pretty well if you give it a chance.

6. No idea.

7. No one asked him, and it will be proven it was not a mistake.

I've played Monster Hunter on PSP. Not being able to control the camera with a second analog stick is very annoying and was the biggest flaw in the system. No one said the 3DS version didn't work, but you can't deny that having to use an additional accessory for the 2nd analog is proof of poor design on Nintendo's part. You would think they would have fixed this with the XL model. Maybe the next one?



They definitely should have added it on for the XL, anyway it shouldn't be a big deal to just get an add on imo. Now for your Question yes they should definitely get one more model by end of summer imo. With Extra Battery plus An extra Analog (3DS XL Pro) and make it for $199.99 and drop the other two to [$149.99-regular] [$179.99-XL]. That would be the smart move. Then both Vita and 3DS will have a good holiday (expecting Vita to drop $199.99 with at least 8 gig memory permanent price drop)



F0X on 24 March 2013

I greatly disagree. The bottom touchscreen is hugely convenient in games like Fire Emblem so that the HUD isn't cluttered and I don't have to wade through menus as much.



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tbone51 on 24 March 2013
VGKing said:
tbone51 said:
Wat i dont understand is why people cant take out $20 extra for the CPP? I mean 1st of all the 3DS is more fit with just 1 anolog(even though i wish it had 2 to begin with) and while some games scream a second anolog like RE revelations and MH3U(both work good without 2nd analog either way) why cant they just buy a CPP? Complaints its more $$ but rather have it on Vita?

Well you can get 3 CPP with a 3DS and it'll be cheaper than a vita cuz you'll need to get a memory card anyway. Some people will agree with this guy only cuz MH3U is not on the platform they want. Its too bad, Get both Handhelds and if not dont complain.

I want Gravity Rush and One Piece Warriors 2. You dont hear me saying it'll be better on 3DS cuz of 2 screens. Its my problem i dont own a vita yet. Plain and Simple

It's not a price problem. It's a design problem. Some games require a 2nd analog and the CPP is Nintendo admitting to a flaw in the 3DS design.
The whole point this guy made is how they are putting a game on a platform that doesn't even make sense purely for profit. It's obvious that console-style games aren't a very good fit for the 3DS and that's what Monster Hunter is. A console-style game. Vita is perfect for console style games. Some keep bashing the Vita calling it a PS3 port machine but that's actually one of its advantages IMO. 



yea seriously Vita best thing about it are its specs, a ps3 portable is great to have! Best thing about Vita imo as well. It would be awesome if 3DS could do the same. Vita being a ps3 portable is a blessing not a curse. I said this b4 i'll say it again, Vita's problem is 2 major things. 1. most important price, not just hardware but those damn memory cards is a turn off. If they cut the price(both hardware and at least half of Memory) it'll sell alot better than Sony gives it credit for 2. More thn half of Vita's games is on a ps3 which over 70mil has. Ex: One Piece Warrior 2 you can get for $60 since most people have a ps3 or is someone willing to buy $250 vita +$$ memory+$40 one piece game? They need more exclusives like Killzone, throw in GTA a proper non rushed COD(i dont want it but millions of people will ). No Sony only exclusives/Vita only exclusives!!!



Resident_Hazard on 24 March 2013
osed125 said:

This is hilarious!

Fez Creator Really Doesn’t Like The Nintendo 3DS

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Phil Fish, the creator behind the critically acclaimed Fez, has taken to Twitter to vent hisfrustrations about the Nintendo 3DS. Fish isn’t a huge fan of the platform and claims that the 3D selling point is a straight up gimmick. Here’s what he had to say about the system.

“Started playing my first monster hunter game last night. on 3DS. it’s not exactly playable without that circle pad pro atrocity… i don’t understand. why would you even release a game like that on a platform like that? why is it not out on let’s say… vita? you know, the one where you could control the camera. it’s too bad because MH looks like it’s basically phantasy star online but not in space. and i love me some PSO. the whole entire thing was a mistake if you ask me.”

“Also, im so sick of this dual-screen clamshell bullshit. a 2nd screen adds NOTHING. it’s a gimmick. 3D is a gimmick. it’s too bad the vita isnt a bigger hit because hardware wise it’s PERFECT. it has ONE AWESOME SCREEN, and TWO JOYSTICKS. there’s never been a single DS or 3DS that didnt make me go “i wish this was on a single screen”. and i’ve never played any game ever anywhere where i was like “i wish this had a 2nd screen”. and absolutely f@$#ing NOBODY ever went “i wish this had 2nd screen that is smaller and a different aspect ration and touch but not 3D” the gameboy micro was the best handheld ever. i wish nintendo would just make a slightly bigger more powerful GBAM-type thing.”

source

I guess I'm done defending him.  He really is kind of brainless.  Why buy a 3DS if you don't bother to understand the fucking thing?  He actually wants Nintendo to move backwards?  



Shinobi-san on 25 March 2013
morenoingrato said:
Shinobi-san said:

It might not be as pathetic but its still pathetic. Well atleast you admit to it being a pathetic comment. You very well know that you were just trying to cause trouble.

And again people are not dismissing the game because its on 3ds they are simply saying its a better match for the psv since the psv comes with a defualt 2nd stick. Its really not hard to get. And how on earth can you call the controlls argument bullshit when they actually MADE THE ADDON SPECIFICALLY FOR THE GAME????? AND BUNDLED IT!

No1 said the 3ds default control scheme is shit. All they said was that the psv's defualt control scheme is better for a game like this. Which is true...its seriously hard to argue against this. And im not sure why you even trying. This is not a sony vs nintendo thing. Jeepers. Posters on this site are ridiculous.

It's absolutely irritating to have to hear that same old argument whenever Monster Hunter comes up. They do not care about the controls, they are upset because it's not on their favorite system and use the controls as an excuse.

If someone wants the game, get it on 3DS. That would be me saying it's a better match on 3DS because the 3D gives it a presentation boost.

Wow. I wonder if you know how bias you are being right now?

Seriously, thanks for ignoring all of my points i made in my post :) But dont worry i dont expect better from you.

Again you making silly claims that are just completely out of nowhere...i dont know what sort of discussions you've had on here about the 3ds/vita and MH, but IN THIS DISCUSSION theres been no "blah blah its better on vita, 3ds sucks" silly comments. Have a look at the people giving the critism you will notice something if you are an active member on this site...most of them are not crazy sony fanboys just trying to get your blood boiling (some have jumped in now though...which is equally as pathetic as you). Il say this again this is not a nintendon vs sony thing. Maybe if you stop thinking about stupid stuff like that you could actually have a decent gaming discussion

And btw yes the 3d in the 3ds does provide a 3d visual boost only fanboys will argue with you on that one. Similar to how only fanboys will argue that having two sticks is a better default control scheme than having 1 plus a seperate addon. Maybe you will catch on now? God you've been on this site for how long ??? Arent you tired of causing shit?



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Shinobi-san on 25 March 2013
EncodedNybble said:
morenoingrato said:

It's absolutely irritating to have to hear that same old argument whenever Monster Hunter comes up. They do not care about the controls, they are upset because it's not on their favorite system and use the controls as an excuse.

If someone wants the game, get it on 3DS. That would be me saying it's a better match on 3DS because the 3D gives it a presentation boost.

Huh? I've seen no one complaining that it "wasn't on their favorite system." People in this thread are complaining about 1) controls (mainly) 2) graphics/monsters on screen. I don't think you can find many reasonable and unbiased people who would argue that the game would NOT control better with a second stick/the CPP. It might not NEED a second stick or CPP (much like the PSP versions didn't *need* one) but I think it's pretty unanimous that it would control better with one.

That seems to be the complaint, not sure how people are thinking it's anything else.

About your point on the 3D, sure, if all other things equal, I think any reasonable person would say the option (that is what the 3DS gives) to have the game be in 3D would be a presentation boost.

@bolded this was exactly my reaction to be honest.

I fully agree with your post. IMO this guy is just hung up with the whole 3ds vs Vita thing.



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Moren on 25 March 2013

Resorting to personal attacks and getting on the defensive, aren't we? To be fair, I don't expect much from you either.

See, I'm not on the mood of convincing you. It will play just as good on the 3DS, whether the console looks more bulky than intended or not. I'll enjoy it just as much as on any other console. People are trying to force the "would have played better on Vita" thing, but in truth, it's just the pain of the loss.

We can't have one single exclusive, because as soon as we do, we get comments on how it would have been better on a Sony console.