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kain_kusanagi said:

BTW, I don't know what "franchise stealing" is.

Final Fantasy on PS1, Resident Evil on Gamecube, Monster Hunter on 3DS, that kind of thing. When a game / franchise that is either exclusive or has a huge following on one system ends up being exclusive on a competing system.



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brendude13 said:
kain_kusanagi said:

BTW, I don't know what "franchise stealing" is.

Final Fantasy on PS1, Resident Evil on Gamecube, Monster Hunter on 3DS, that kind of thing. When a game / franchise that is either exclusive or has a huge following on one system ends up being exclusive on a competing system.


ok. I don't consider that stealing. I'd much prefer them all to be multiplatform though. Square moved to Playstation for the CD format, Capcom signed a contract with Nintendo for timed exclusives and 2nd party games. I don't have a big problem with that, but like I said I'd prefer it all to be multiplatform.

Fans are too entitled these days. Just because a company made some games for only one platform back when it was the biggest market doesn't mean they should continue to make "exclusives' when other platforms offer opertunity. The PS2 used to be the only system a dev needed to support. I don't think they felt like they were making Sony exclusives. I think they felt like the other platforms weren't worth the dev costs. Now the tools have gotten so good that multiplatform development is cheap. And the era of the PS2 is over and it takes more platforms to equal that kind of market.



Can't wait for E3 to just end the suspense.



kain_kusanagi said:
brendude13 said:

Final Fantasy on PS1, Resident Evil on Gamecube, Monster Hunter on 3DS, that kind of thing. When a game / franchise that is either exclusive or has a huge following on one system ends up being exclusive on a competing system.

ok. I don't consider that stealing. I'd much prefer them all to be multiplatform though. Square moved to Playstation for the CD format, Capcom signed a contract with Nintendo for timed exclusives and 2nd party games. I don't have a big problem with that, but like I said I'd prefer it all to be multiplatform.

Capcom wasn't 2nd party to Nintendo.



brendude13 said:
kain_kusanagi said:
brendude13 said:

Final Fantasy on PS1, Resident Evil on Gamecube, Monster Hunter on 3DS, that kind of thing. When a game / franchise that is either exclusive or has a huge following on one system ends up being exclusive on a competing system.

ok. I don't consider that stealing. I'd much prefer them all to be multiplatform though. Square moved to Playstation for the CD format, Capcom signed a contract with Nintendo for timed exclusives and 2nd party games. I don't have a big problem with that, but like I said I'd prefer it all to be multiplatform.

Capcom wasn't 2nd party to Nintendo.

2nd party is just a made up term to describe the exclusivity contract between a platform hold and a 3rd party developer. Capcom entered into contract with Nintendo to make several exclusive games for the Gamecube. Those are commonly refered to as 2nd party games.



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kain_kusanagi said:
brendude13 said:

Capcom wasn't 2nd party to Nintendo.

2nd party is just a made up term to describe the exclusivity contract between a platform hold and a 3rd party developer. Capcom entered into contract with Nintendo to make several exclusive games for the Gamecube. Those are commonly refered to as 2nd party games.

Who's to say Square Enix doesn't have a contract with Sony over Versus XIII?



brendude13 said:
kain_kusanagi said:
brendude13 said:

Capcom wasn't 2nd party to Nintendo.

2nd party is just a made up term to describe the exclusivity contract between a platform hold and a 3rd party developer. Capcom entered into contract with Nintendo to make several exclusive games for the Gamecube. Those are commonly refered to as 2nd party games.

Who's to say Square Enix doesn't have a contract with Sony over Versus XIII?

Nobody. As far as anyone is aware there is no contract. And if there is no 2nd party contract than it should be multiplatform. The engine and tools are multiplatform and there's more money to be made. The more people who get to play it the better. If Sony buys it as a 2nd party exclusive so be it, but until then I will continue to call for it and all 3rd party games to be multiplatform.



kain_kusanagi said:
brendude13 said:
kain_kusanagi said:
brendude13 said:

Final Fantasy on PS1, Resident Evil on Gamecube, Monster Hunter on 3DS, that kind of thing. When a game / franchise that is either exclusive or has a huge following on one system ends up being exclusive on a competing system.

ok. I don't consider that stealing. I'd much prefer them all to be multiplatform though. Square moved to Playstation for the CD format, Capcom signed a contract with Nintendo for timed exclusives and 2nd party games. I don't have a big problem with that, but like I said I'd prefer it all to be multiplatform.

Capcom wasn't 2nd party to Nintendo.

2nd party is just a made up term to describe the exclusivity contract between a platform hold and a 3rd party developer. Capcom entered into contract with Nintendo to make several exclusive games for the Gamecube. Those are commonly refered to as 2nd party games.


Capcom made third party for sega, they were never second party to Nintendo. I read that Nintendo had exclusive chips integrated into the system to keep devs with them despite Segas growing marketshare. They were slowly losing power to Sega because of games and brand image before Sony even arrived to deliver the final blow. Capcom made serveral games that were multiplat with the Gamecube that still came out on the PS2. Look them up. The PS2 was that dominant.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
kain_kusanagi said:
brendude13 said:
kain_kusanagi said:
brendude13 said:

Final Fantasy on PS1, Resident Evil on Gamecube, Monster Hunter on 3DS, that kind of thing. When a game / franchise that is either exclusive or has a huge following on one system ends up being exclusive on a competing system.

ok. I don't consider that stealing. I'd much prefer them all to be multiplatform though. Square moved to Playstation for the CD format, Capcom signed a contract with Nintendo for timed exclusives and 2nd party games. I don't have a big problem with that, but like I said I'd prefer it all to be multiplatform.

Capcom wasn't 2nd party to Nintendo.

2nd party is just a made up term to describe the exclusivity contract between a platform hold and a 3rd party developer. Capcom entered into contract with Nintendo to make several exclusive games for the Gamecube. Those are commonly refered to as 2nd party games.


Capcom made third party for sega, they were never second party to Nintendo. I read that Nintendo had exclusive chips integrated into the system to keep devs with them despite Segas growing marketshare. They were slowly losing power to Sega because of games and brand image before Sony even arrived to deliver the final blow. Capcom made serveral games that were multiplat with the Gamecube that still came out on the PS2. Look them up. The PS2 was that dominant.

I'll say it again. the term "2nd party" is just a popular way to describe a contract between a platform holder and a 3rd party developer. Resident Evil Zero and the Resident Evil Remake as well as some other games were part of a deal between Capcom and Nintendo for the Gamecube. Those games would be correctly described as 2nd party games. If you want to read the definition of these types of development terms here's a link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_developer



kain_kusanagi said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
kain_kusanagi said:
brendude13 said:
kain_kusanagi said:
brendude13 said:

Final Fantasy on PS1, Resident Evil on Gamecube, Monster Hunter on 3DS, that kind of thing. When a game / franchise that is either exclusive or has a huge following on one system ends up being exclusive on a competing system.

ok. I don't consider that stealing. I'd much prefer them all to be multiplatform though. Square moved to Playstation for the CD format, Capcom signed a contract with Nintendo for timed exclusives and 2nd party games. I don't have a big problem with that, but like I said I'd prefer it all to be multiplatform.

Capcom wasn't 2nd party to Nintendo.

2nd party is just a made up term to describe the exclusivity contract between a platform hold and a 3rd party developer. Capcom entered into contract with Nintendo to make several exclusive games for the Gamecube. Those are commonly refered to as 2nd party games.


Capcom made third party for sega, they were never second party to Nintendo. I read that Nintendo had exclusive chips integrated into the system to keep devs with them despite Segas growing marketshare. They were slowly losing power to Sega because of games and brand image before Sony even arrived to deliver the final blow. Capcom made serveral games that were multiplat with the Gamecube that still came out on the PS2. Look them up. The PS2 was that dominant.

I'll say it again. the term "2nd party" is just a popular way to describe a contract between a platform holder and a 3rd party developer. Resident Evil Zero and the Resident Evil Remake as well as some other games were part of a deal between Capcom and Nintendo for the Gamecube. Those games would be correctly described as 2nd party games. If you want to read the definition of these types of development terms here's a link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_developer


Yes, definitely Capcom had a lot to make up for after leaving Nintendo out for a while during the PS1 era.