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Scisca said:
tbone51 said:
Ucell said:
tbone51 said:
Ucell said:
RazorDragon said:
I still believe this is just another mobile game, it doesn't really make much sense to release another AC for Vita now.


Why not? AC 3: Liberation sold well on the Vita and now it has an established fanbase on the system. Keep your fanboy stuff to yourself, I get it you're frustrated that its not coming to the 3DS.



i dont think he said it'll be on 3DS, anyway its 99% chance to be on vita at this point, Sales proved well on the 1st one on Vita and with a price cut in June/July i seethis game getting 1-1.2mil lifetme


I didn't say he meant it was a 3DS title, just that he's butthurt that its going to be a Vita title.



it would be cool if it was on 3DS, but in reality it'll be on Vita!!! its a vita type of game

I think it would be painful to watch, not cool... 3DS just doesn't have what it takes to get a genuine AC game.



it'll still be cool if it was, RE revelations looked good, if 3DS could handle AC, i'd buy it. I kno Vita is more powerful and can handle, im not denying that jus saying it'll be good if on 3DS!



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RazorDragon said:
Ucell said:
RazorDragon said:
I still believe this is just another mobile game, it doesn't really make much sense to release another AC for Vita now.


Why not? AC 3: Liberation sold well on the Vita and now it has an established fanbase on the system. Keep your fanboy stuff to yourself, I get it you're frustrated that its not coming to the 3DS.

 

Yup, Liberation sold well(based on VGChartz numbers it probably gave Ubi a small profit), and that's exactly why. Announcing a new AC game for Vita would make no sense, because it would kill Liberation's sales which should grow much higher over the year thanks to the lack of system sellers on Vita. Anyway, that's just my opinion, no need to get mad, I didn't even mentioned 3DS in my post, as by saying mobile I meant iPhone, Android, WP, etc., releases.

I'm enjoying ACIII:L now and I will surely buy the next AC on Vita. I won't buy Liberation again, so this is the reason why Ubi makes the sequel. They already have the engine and experienced staff to make the sequel, so the dev costs will be much lower, hence even if the game sells the same numbers as ACIII:L, the profit will be higher.

They could release the game later than this Christmas though, to give us a bit more time and a different AAA game to play in between the two, but on the other hand that's not really that necessary. As long as 3rd parties support Vita with AAA games I'm happy and buying their games :)



Wii U is a GCN 2 - I called it months before the release!

My Vita to-buy list: The Walking Dead, Persona 4 Golden, Need for Speed: Most Wanted, TearAway, Ys: Memories of Celceta, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, History: Legends of War, FIFA 13, Final Fantasy HD X, X-2, Worms Revolution Extreme, The Amazing Spiderman, Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate - too many no-gaemz :/

My consoles: PS2 Slim, PS3 Slim 320 GB, PSV 32 GB, Wii, DSi.

I wonder if their yearly AC games will also be on Vita as well as consoles.



http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/profile/92109/nintendopie/ Nintendopie  Was obviously right and I was obviously wrong. I will forever be a lesser being than them. (6/16/13)

tbone51 said:
Scisca said:
tbone51 said:
Ucell said:
tbone51 said:
Ucell said:
RazorDragon said:
I still believe this is just another mobile game, it doesn't really make much sense to release another AC for Vita now.


Why not? AC 3: Liberation sold well on the Vita and now it has an established fanbase on the system. Keep your fanboy stuff to yourself, I get it you're frustrated that its not coming to the 3DS.



i dont think he said it'll be on 3DS, anyway its 99% chance to be on vita at this point, Sales proved well on the 1st one on Vita and with a price cut in June/July i seethis game getting 1-1.2mil lifetme


I didn't say he meant it was a 3DS title, just that he's butthurt that its going to be a Vita title.



it would be cool if it was on 3DS, but in reality it'll be on Vita!!! its a vita type of game

I think it would be painful to watch, not cool... 3DS just doesn't have what it takes to get a genuine AC game.



it'll still be cool if it was, RE revelations looked good, if 3DS could handle AC, i'd buy it. I kno Vita is more powerful and can handle, im not denying that jus saying it'll be good if on 3DS!

It really amuses me how many times you keep raising the RE:R argument when talking about AC on 3DS, just to get the same responce every time. RE:R = tight corridors, AC = an open world sandbox with a huge living city and tons of NPCs. I don't even want to try to imagine just how bad that game would look.



Wii U is a GCN 2 - I called it months before the release!

My Vita to-buy list: The Walking Dead, Persona 4 Golden, Need for Speed: Most Wanted, TearAway, Ys: Memories of Celceta, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, History: Legends of War, FIFA 13, Final Fantasy HD X, X-2, Worms Revolution Extreme, The Amazing Spiderman, Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate - too many no-gaemz :/

My consoles: PS2 Slim, PS3 Slim 320 GB, PSV 32 GB, Wii, DSi.

Scisca said:
tbone51 said:
Scisca said:
tbone51 said:
Ucell said:
tbone51 said:
Ucell said:
RazorDragon said:
I still believe this is just another mobile game, it doesn't really make much sense to release another AC for Vita now.


Why not? AC 3: Liberation sold well on the Vita and now it has an established fanbase on the system. Keep your fanboy stuff to yourself, I get it you're frustrated that its not coming to the 3DS.



i dont think he said it'll be on 3DS, anyway its 99% chance to be on vita at this point, Sales proved well on the 1st one on Vita and with a price cut in June/July i seethis game getting 1-1.2mil lifetme


I didn't say he meant it was a 3DS title, just that he's butthurt that its going to be a Vita title.



it would be cool if it was on 3DS, but in reality it'll be on Vita!!! its a vita type of game

I think it would be painful to watch, not cool... 3DS just doesn't have what it takes to get a genuine AC game.



it'll still be cool if it was, RE revelations looked good, if 3DS could handle AC, i'd buy it. I kno Vita is more powerful and can handle, im not denying that jus saying it'll be good if on 3DS!

It really amuses me how many times you keep raising the RE:R argument when talking about AC on 3DS, just to get the same responce every time. RE:R = tight corridors, AC = an open world sandbox with a huge living city and tons of NPCs. I don't even want to try to imagine just how bad that game would look.



i never said it'll be on it (i get the RE tight corridor+AC open world) but if you think it'll look all that bad then just stop there. I know Vita specs are >>>>> 3DS but dont diss 3DS cuz it wont be as good as Good looking as Vita. Its your opinion, Ex Xenoblade chronicles is awesome but comparing it to FF is obviously gonna lose. Get me?



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tbone51 said:
Scisca said:
tbone51 said:
Scisca said:
tbone51 said:
Ucell said:
tbone51 said:
Ucell said:
RazorDragon said:
I still believe this is just another mobile game, it doesn't really make much sense to release another AC for Vita now.


Why not? AC 3: Liberation sold well on the Vita and now it has an established fanbase on the system. Keep your fanboy stuff to yourself, I get it you're frustrated that its not coming to the 3DS.



i dont think he said it'll be on 3DS, anyway its 99% chance to be on vita at this point, Sales proved well on the 1st one on Vita and with a price cut in June/July i seethis game getting 1-1.2mil lifetme


I didn't say he meant it was a 3DS title, just that he's butthurt that its going to be a Vita title.



it would be cool if it was on 3DS, but in reality it'll be on Vita!!! its a vita type of game

I think it would be painful to watch, not cool... 3DS just doesn't have what it takes to get a genuine AC game.



it'll still be cool if it was, RE revelations looked good, if 3DS could handle AC, i'd buy it. I kno Vita is more powerful and can handle, im not denying that jus saying it'll be good if on 3DS!

It really amuses me how many times you keep raising the RE:R argument when talking about AC on 3DS, just to get the same responce every time. RE:R = tight corridors, AC = an open world sandbox with a huge living city and tons of NPCs. I don't even want to try to imagine just how bad that game would look.



i never said it'll be on it (i get the RE tight corridor+AC open world) but if you think it'll look all that bad then just stop there. I know Vita specs are >>>>> 3DS but dont diss 3DS cuz it wont be as good as Good looking as Vita. Its your opinion, Ex Xenoblade chronicles is awesome but comparing it to FF is obviously gonna lose. Get me?

It's the graphics, the CPU, but as I've told you yesterday - it's also the controls. AC with just one analog stick? The whole experience would be underwhelming. This would be reflected in the reviews and marks the game gets. Couple that with the fact that the number of people interested in such a game on 3DS is rather small in the first place and I seriously doubt it's worth the hassle for Ubi. Also your example isn't valid, since Xenoblade > FF XIII ;) But in this case we would have the same game on Vita and 3DS, but the 3DS game would be extremely dumbed down in terms of graphics and it all just wouldn't be as impressive as it should be, since AC is an experience created with current gen home consoles in mind and Vita just happens to be on that level, while 3DS is not.

 

@Axumblade - no, you're wrong, that's not what he said. He brought up the argument that RE:R looked good to defend the idea that AC would look good as well. And he has just done it for probably the third time in just two days in different topics and every single time got hit with the same answer. Cause the facts remain the same, AC on 3DS would look painful, cause open world and tight corridors are very far apart. This won't change no matter how many times he raises this argument :P



Wii U is a GCN 2 - I called it months before the release!

My Vita to-buy list: The Walking Dead, Persona 4 Golden, Need for Speed: Most Wanted, TearAway, Ys: Memories of Celceta, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, History: Legends of War, FIFA 13, Final Fantasy HD X, X-2, Worms Revolution Extreme, The Amazing Spiderman, Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate - too many no-gaemz :/

My consoles: PS2 Slim, PS3 Slim 320 GB, PSV 32 GB, Wii, DSi.

Scisca said:
tbone51 said:
Scisca said:
tbone51 said:
Scisca said:
tbone51 said:
Ucell said:
tbone51 said:
Ucell said:
RazorDragon said:
I still believe this is just another mobile game, it doesn't really make much sense to release another AC for Vita now.


Why not? AC 3: Liberation sold well on the Vita and now it has an established fanbase on the system. Keep your fanboy stuff to yourself, I get it you're frustrated that its not coming to the 3DS.



i dont think he said it'll be on 3DS, anyway its 99% chance to be on vita at this point, Sales proved well on the 1st one on Vita and with a price cut in June/July i seethis game getting 1-1.2mil lifetme


I didn't say he meant it was a 3DS title, just that he's butthurt that its going to be a Vita title.



it would be cool if it was on 3DS, but in reality it'll be on Vita!!! its a vita type of game

I think it would be painful to watch, not cool... 3DS just doesn't have what it takes to get a genuine AC game.



it'll still be cool if it was, RE revelations looked good, if 3DS could handle AC, i'd buy it. I kno Vita is more powerful and can handle, im not denying that jus saying it'll be good if on 3DS!

It really amuses me how many times you keep raising the RE:R argument when talking about AC on 3DS, just to get the same responce every time. RE:R = tight corridors, AC = an open world sandbox with a huge living city and tons of NPCs. I don't even want to try to imagine just how bad that game would look.



i never said it'll be on it (i get the RE tight corridor+AC open world) but if you think it'll look all that bad then just stop there. I know Vita specs are >>>>> 3DS but dont diss 3DS cuz it wont be as good as Good looking as Vita. Its your opinion, Ex Xenoblade chronicles is awesome but comparing it to FF is obviously gonna lose. Get me?

It's the graphics, the CPU, but as I've told you yesterday - it's also the controls. AC with just one analog stick? The whole experience would be underwhelming. This would be reflected in the reviews and marks the game gets. Couple that with the fact that the number of people interested in such a game on 3DS is rather small in the first place and I seriously doubt it's worth the hassle for Ubi. Also your example isn't valid, since Xenoblade > FF XIII ;) But in this case we would have the same game on Vita and 3DS, but the 3DS game would be extremely dumbed down in terms of graphics and it all just wouldn't be as impressive as it should be, since AC is an experience created with current gen home consoles in mind and Vita just happens to be on that level, while 3DS is not.

 

@Axumblade - no, you're wrong, that's not what he said. He brought up the argument that RE:R looked good to defend the idea that AC would look good as well. And he has just done it for probably the third time in just two days in different topics and every single time got hit with the same answer. Cause the facts remain the same, AC on 3DS would look painful, cause open world and tight corridors are very far apart. This won't change no matter how many times he raises this argument :P


AC: Bloodlines for PSP didn't looked "painful", and, considering 3DS is more powerful than PSP, AC should look quite a bit better on 3DS than Bloodlines did on PSP. But, of course, Vita would do a much better AC graphics-wise than 3DS, but I think we all already know that.



RazorDragon said:
Scisca said:
tbone51 said:
Scisca said:
tbone51 said:
Scisca said:
tbone51 said:
Ucell said:
tbone51 said:
Ucell said:
RazorDragon said:
I still believe this is just another mobile game, it doesn't really make much sense to release another AC for Vita now.


Why not? AC 3: Liberation sold well on the Vita and now it has an established fanbase on the system. Keep your fanboy stuff to yourself, I get it you're frustrated that its not coming to the 3DS.



i dont think he said it'll be on 3DS, anyway its 99% chance to be on vita at this point, Sales proved well on the 1st one on Vita and with a price cut in June/July i seethis game getting 1-1.2mil lifetme


I didn't say he meant it was a 3DS title, just that he's butthurt that its going to be a Vita title.



it would be cool if it was on 3DS, but in reality it'll be on Vita!!! its a vita type of game

I think it would be painful to watch, not cool... 3DS just doesn't have what it takes to get a genuine AC game.



it'll still be cool if it was, RE revelations looked good, if 3DS could handle AC, i'd buy it. I kno Vita is more powerful and can handle, im not denying that jus saying it'll be good if on 3DS!

It really amuses me how many times you keep raising the RE:R argument when talking about AC on 3DS, just to get the same responce every time. RE:R = tight corridors, AC = an open world sandbox with a huge living city and tons of NPCs. I don't even want to try to imagine just how bad that game would look.



i never said it'll be on it (i get the RE tight corridor+AC open world) but if you think it'll look all that bad then just stop there. I know Vita specs are >>>>> 3DS but dont diss 3DS cuz it wont be as good as Good looking as Vita. Its your opinion, Ex Xenoblade chronicles is awesome but comparing it to FF is obviously gonna lose. Get me?

It's the graphics, the CPU, but as I've told you yesterday - it's also the controls. AC with just one analog stick? The whole experience would be underwhelming. This would be reflected in the reviews and marks the game gets. Couple that with the fact that the number of people interested in such a game on 3DS is rather small in the first place and I seriously doubt it's worth the hassle for Ubi. Also your example isn't valid, since Xenoblade > FF XIII ;) But in this case we would have the same game on Vita and 3DS, but the 3DS game would be extremely dumbed down in terms of graphics and it all just wouldn't be as impressive as it should be, since AC is an experience created with current gen home consoles in mind and Vita just happens to be on that level, while 3DS is not.

 

@Axumblade - no, you're wrong, that's not what he said. He brought up the argument that RE:R looked good to defend the idea that AC would look good as well. And he has just done it for probably the third time in just two days in different topics and every single time got hit with the same answer. Cause the facts remain the same, AC on 3DS would look painful, cause open world and tight corridors are very far apart. This won't change no matter how many times he raises this argument :P


AC: Bloodlines for PSP didn't looked "painful", and, considering 3DS is more powerful than PSP, AC should look quite a bit better on 3DS than Bloodlines did on PSP. But, of course, Vita would do a much better AC graphics-wise than 3DS, but I think we all already know that.

Considering we're in 2013, the next gen is entering the market as we speak and the way ACIII:L looks, I think that AC:Bloodlines does look painful. If the 3DS game looked close to that, the sales would be painful as well.



Wii U is a GCN 2 - I called it months before the release!

My Vita to-buy list: The Walking Dead, Persona 4 Golden, Need for Speed: Most Wanted, TearAway, Ys: Memories of Celceta, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, History: Legends of War, FIFA 13, Final Fantasy HD X, X-2, Worms Revolution Extreme, The Amazing Spiderman, Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate - too many no-gaemz :/

My consoles: PS2 Slim, PS3 Slim 320 GB, PSV 32 GB, Wii, DSi.

RazorDragon said:
VGKing said:
RazorDragon said:
Ucell said:
RazorDragon said:
I still believe this is just another mobile game, it doesn't really make much sense to release another AC for Vita now.


Why not? AC 3: Liberation sold well on the Vita and now it has an established fanbase on the system. Keep your fanboy stuff to yourself, I get it you're frustrated that its not coming to the 3DS.

 

Yup, Liberation sold well(based on VGChartz numbers it probably gave Ubi a small profit), and that's exactly why. Announcing a new AC game for Vita would make no sense, because it would kill Liberation's sales which should grow much higher over the year thanks to the lack of system sellers on Vita. Anyway, that's just my opinion, no need to get mad, I didn't even mentioned 3DS in my post, as by saying mobile I meant iPhone, Android, WP, etc., releases.

Sequels are what push franchises to new record highs, not sitting on your ass and waiting until that old game you released reaches a certain milestone. The game will still be available to purchase in stores so if people want to play it it's available. I think Liberation is done selling. It clearly doesn't have any significant long sexy legs.


AC3 is still selling well now despite having been released quite a long time ago, and that's considering 360, PS3 and PC got many new games being released during that time frame. Vita is low on releases and AC:L is one of the few must-buy games on the system, it makes much more sense to let it keep selling (because of the lack of competition) than waste money to release a new game whose profit probably won't be much higher than the first one.

AC3 is selling beacuse of the huge install base of PS3/360. Liberations isn't because of the tiny install base. New games convince people to buy a system, not old ones, regardless of how good they are. This early in the Vita's life cycle, its more about keeping a healthy relationship with Sony than making profits.



Scisca said:
RazorDragon said:
Scisca said:
tbone51 said:
Scisca said:
tbone51 said:
Scisca said:
tbone51 said:
Ucell said:
tbone51 said:
Ucell said:
RazorDragon said:
I still believe this is just another mobile game, it doesn't really make much sense to release another AC for Vita now.


Why not? AC 3: Liberation sold well on the Vita and now it has an established fanbase on the system. Keep your fanboy stuff to yourself, I get it you're frustrated that its not coming to the 3DS.



i dont think he said it'll be on 3DS, anyway its 99% chance to be on vita at this point, Sales proved well on the 1st one on Vita and with a price cut in June/July i seethis game getting 1-1.2mil lifetme


I didn't say he meant it was a 3DS title, just that he's butthurt that its going to be a Vita title.



it would be cool if it was on 3DS, but in reality it'll be on Vita!!! its a vita type of game

I think it would be painful to watch, not cool... 3DS just doesn't have what it takes to get a genuine AC game.



it'll still be cool if it was, RE revelations looked good, if 3DS could handle AC, i'd buy it. I kno Vita is more powerful and can handle, im not denying that jus saying it'll be good if on 3DS!

It really amuses me how many times you keep raising the RE:R argument when talking about AC on 3DS, just to get the same responce every time. RE:R = tight corridors, AC = an open world sandbox with a huge living city and tons of NPCs. I don't even want to try to imagine just how bad that game would look.



i never said it'll be on it (i get the RE tight corridor+AC open world) but if you think it'll look all that bad then just stop there. I know Vita specs are >>>>> 3DS but dont diss 3DS cuz it wont be as good as Good looking as Vita. Its your opinion, Ex Xenoblade chronicles is awesome but comparing it to FF is obviously gonna lose. Get me?

It's the graphics, the CPU, but as I've told you yesterday - it's also the controls. AC with just one analog stick? The whole experience would be underwhelming. This would be reflected in the reviews and marks the game gets. Couple that with the fact that the number of people interested in such a game on 3DS is rather small in the first place and I seriously doubt it's worth the hassle for Ubi. Also your example isn't valid, since Xenoblade > FF XIII ;) But in this case we would have the same game on Vita and 3DS, but the 3DS game would be extremely dumbed down in terms of graphics and it all just wouldn't be as impressive as it should be, since AC is an experience created with current gen home consoles in mind and Vita just happens to be on that level, while 3DS is not.

 

@Axumblade - no, you're wrong, that's not what he said. He brought up the argument that RE:R looked good to defend the idea that AC would look good as well. And he has just done it for probably the third time in just two days in different topics and every single time got hit with the same answer. Cause the facts remain the same, AC on 3DS would look painful, cause open world and tight corridors are very far apart. This won't change no matter how many times he raises this argument :P


AC: Bloodlines for PSP didn't looked "painful", and, considering 3DS is more powerful than PSP, AC should look quite a bit better on 3DS than Bloodlines did on PSP. But, of course, Vita would do a much better AC graphics-wise than 3DS, but I think we all already know that.

Considering we're in 2013, the next gen is entering the market as we speak and the way ACIII:L looks, I think that AC:Bloodlines does look painful. If the 3DS game looked close to that, the sales would be painful as well.


Since the Dreamcast I became unable to find any 3D game released after 2000 looking "painful", but I understand your point.