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Skrunch-a-tron on 14 March 2013

Can't company's bribe major review sites to give bad reviews to the game's of their competitors? Or am I just being stupid? Because there is literally nothing I can find that makes this worse than any previous god of war game, except for the story I guess... but was the story really such a big highlight of the previous games?... someone heed my calling for answers!



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UnitSmiley on 14 March 2013

I only JUST got into God of War, so i'm not like a long time fan defending it or anything. But I seriously wouldn't count the PSP games if you are arguing that it's being over done.

It just seems like stretching to me.

God of War PS2 (2005)
God of War II PS2 (2007)

God of War Chains of Olympus PSP (2008)
God of War Ghost of Sparta PSP (2010)

God of War III PS3 (2010)
God of War Ascension PS3 (2013)

2 on each platform doesn't seem overdone to me. Especially since the PSP is a handheld. You can't really count the collection or origins imo. I suppose reviewers have to review them but they shouldn't let that affect their reviews of Ascension. Havn't played Ascension yet btw (besides multiplayer).



Jaywood2010 on 14 March 2013
UnitSmiley said:
I only JUST got into God of War, so i'm not like a long time fan defending it or anything. But I seriously wouldn't count the PSP games if you are arguing that it's being over done.

It just seems like stretching to me.

God of War PS2 (2005)
God of War II PS2 (2007)

God of War Chains of Olympus PSP (2008)
God of War Ghost of Sparta PSP (2010)

God of War III PS3 (2010)
God of War Ascension PS3 (2013)

2 on each platform doesn't seem overdone to me. Especially since the PSP is a handheld. You can't really count the collection or origins imo. I suppose reviewers have to review them but they shouldn't let that affect their reviews of Ascension. Havn't played Ascension yet btw (besides multiplayer).

Reviewers have to review all of them.  They are also apart of the main series with similar playstyle.

Im not sure why everybody is acting like I'm saying something that is offesive to GoW.  Great series but it is hard to say that they dont release a ton of these games in a short amount of time. 




       

UnitSmiley on 14 March 2013
JayWood2010 said:
UnitSmiley said:
I only JUST got into God of War, so i'm not like a long time fan defending it or anything. But I seriously wouldn't count the PSP games if you are arguing that it's being over done.

It just seems like stretching to me.

God of War PS2 (2005)
God of War II PS2 (2007)

God of War Chains of Olympus PSP (2008)
God of War Ghost of Sparta PSP (2010)

God of War III PS3 (2010)
God of War Ascension PS3 (2013)

2 on each platform doesn't seem overdone to me. Especially since the PSP is a handheld. You can't really count the collection or origins imo. I suppose reviewers have to review them but they shouldn't let that affect their reviews of Ascension. Havn't played Ascension yet btw (besides multiplayer).

Reviewers have to review all of them.  They are also apart of the main series with similar playstyle.

Im not sure why everybody is acting like I'm saying something that is offesive to GoW.  Great series but it is hard to say that they dont release a ton of these games in a short amount of time. 


I didn't interpret what you said as offensive, I just disagree with it. I really don't even see the two PSP games (as good as they are) as part of the main series. I just finished both PSP games and GoW 1 within a few days of each other and today started GoW 2. GoW 2 doesn't even really reference the two PSP games (because it came out before them).

You can literally finish GoW 1 and go straight into GoW 2 and not have really missed anything.

Maybe it's just a personal thing but I've never really counted handheld versions of a franchise along with the main series. Kind of like how many people want Kingdom Hearts 3, but have never played any of the handheld spinoffs.

As far as reviewers go, I suppose it makes sense.



bananaking21 on 14 March 2013
JayWood2010 said:
bananaking21 said:
JayWood2010 said:
bananaking21 said:

and yes i agree with sony releasing quite a bit to much og GoW. but wasnt the last real release about 2 and half years ago with ghost of sparta? seems like a really reasonable to have between game releases. 


I realize that they are collections or remakes but reviewers still reviews them regardless which means by this point they may be played out on GoW.

As far as main releases they have had 6 in 8 years.  GoW trilogy, Chains of Olympus, Ghost of Sparta, and Ascension.

They sell well and people like them so why not

yeah i get your point. 

btw did you play the game?

No.  I have it on my gamefly list right now so im waiting. I am waiting ever so patiently XD lol  

lool i called up every store i know looking for the game, non had it. then i was running errands with my brother and we stopped by a place to fix my other brothers glasses, i saw a gaming store so i walked in, i saw he had the game and i started yelling "you have it man! you have it! i looked everywhere for it!" while pointing at GoW:A lol the son of bitch jacked up the price haha. still got it, and its worth every penny

btw you should run towards the closest store and buy it right away. forget the damn waiting lol and piece of advice, just let go of arguing with people on this thread, they are just going to think you hate the game and want to downplay it. its not worth the time



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Gamer_of_the_Year on 14 March 2013
JayWood2010 said:
Gamer_of_the_Year said:
JayWood2010 said:
Gamer_of_the_Year said:
JayWood2010 said:
Gamer_of_the_Year said:
JayWood2010 said:
-Newcloud- said:
Yet the new call of duty will be praised for have the same solid gameplay it's had since COD4.


Wrong.  this is a myth and an exageration by this point in the generation. 

Call of Duty 4 - 92 metacritic

Blackops II - 83 metacritic

Don't mistake popularity for critics over hyping it.  CoD4 and MW2 was original and deserved the scores it got.  They have declined since due to stale gameplay.

God of War: Ascension> Black Ops II

in fact.

God of War: Ascension>Modern Warfare 3

Either way, anyone who bashes God of War Ascension when it has the best gameplay the series has ever seen, then turns around and gives the stale, innovation-less series COD anything above a 70 can't be trusted.


You are acting like this is a fact.  I like how you are comparing your opinion with facts though. I also like how you are comparing two completely different genres.  I could easily go out and talk to the 20 million people who own the game and Im sure a lot of them would disagree with you.  Not sure why you are in here bashing CoD in the first place.  If you dont like it so be it, but this isnt the place for the discussion

I simply showed you proof that you was wrong.  God of War is being played out just like call of duty.  We have had how many god of war games in just the last 5 years?  Just like CoD people are getting played out on it.

No, it's a fact that CoD ceased to innovate its gameplay in any kind of significant or creative way since the original Modern Warfare. It is a glorified map update that people adore because of the multiplayer. Nothing more, nothing less. It's also a fact that activision hasn't given ANY thought or care whatsover to the campaign in years. I remember a few of the campaigns being 5-6 hours long lol. Really?! For a $60 retail game? A 6 hour campaign? Unacceptable.

So, know, you didn't prove me wrong in any way. Because Modern Warfare 3 and original Black Ops got glowing reviews and they were stale as ever. God of War is actually innovating and adding new elements to its experience each expansion (including a great multiplayer this year). Those are some more FACTS. And millions of pre-teens love Justin Beiber. Doesn't make his music and his appeal any less saccherine and lame. Popularity does not equal quality. I could care less if you find 10 million idiots who don't mind harking 60 bucks up a year for a map pack expansion for multiplayer.

What's the storyline in Call of Duty again? Don't worry, I'll wait.


Yes let's compare games to the music industry where you are forced to listened to mainstream via radio.

God of War is also a mainstram video game ;)

Anyways you are still basing things around your opinion rather than looking at the whole picture.  And to think reviewers are  reviewing call of duty only on its single player is laughable.  It is being reviewed not only by its single player but its addicting multiplayer that for whatever reason people still can not top besides other games that are on the same standards like Halo and Battlefield.  When you think of the best FPS games Halo, CoD, Battlefield will be in almost every discussion.  However CoD has steadily been getting lower reviews due to stale gameplay which ive mentioned before.  Still the game is addicting and it is why people keep flocking to stores buying it.  God of War is also the top of it's class in hack n slash so dont read that wrong.

God of War has had 4 games in 5 years yet you somehow think that is better?  not only is the gameplay getting stale by this point but it doesnt have an addicting multiplayer like CoD to fall back on.  Then there is the story which from reviews and even users has said it is significantly worst than previous god of war games.  

This by no means says that the gameplay is worst, but there is flaws in the game.  Im going to use Halo 4 as an example.  Most people will say technically that Halo 4 is better than halo 1 but it has lower reviews.  Why because it is no longer original.  Same thing goes to gears of war and Killzone.  Without innovation these games will not recieve a higher score.

You like God of War Ascension and that is great that you do but dont bash other people for having a different opinion than you or liking a different game.

No review of a video game should start with multiplayer. If Call of Duty wants to really just become a multiplayer game then release one big ass game PC style and send in patches every year. They release a $60 retail game EVERY. FREAKING. YEAR. For any reviewer not taking that into consideration when reviewing CoD really shouldn't have a job reviewing video games. Ignoring campaigns is a bad precendent to set in gaming. Online experience is secondary, alternative FEATURE. Not the main attraction. Again, if CoD's business model was just for multiplayer it doesn't require a new disc every year to do that.

Furthermore, I'm not bashing other people (or rather critics) for liking CoD. I'm pointing out the absolutely GLARING hypocrcisy involved in their chastisement of one title to another. You can't claim GoW:A is "more of the same" (because its not. I mean, it's really, really not.) and mark that as a negative and then turn around and give Call of Duty a higher score (because EVERYONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND KNOWS COD IS ALWAYS MORE OF THE SAME AND NOTHING MORE! lol). It makes you not only a hypocrite. But a horrible "journalist". Take a look at the websites who scored God of War Under an 80 or better yet even under an 85. And see what they gave CoD. It's higher in 90% of the reviews.

Gaming "journalism" is a cess pool. And it has to stop. Stop defending malpractice.

As I said before the reviews has been steadily dcling for call of duy.  You also are still basing your statements around opinions like single player over multiplayer which is simply not true.  Some games are more focused on multiplayer than single player.  For example World of Warcraft, counterstrike, unreal tournament, battlefield etc.  Call of Duty has single player but it is not the main attraction and you are very aware of that. It just sounds like to me that you dont care for multiplayer and have the mentality that they should review things according to what you like most.

Anyways I'm not going to argue this anymore.  I was just showing you that CoD scores has been getting lower and now this is a CoD vs GoW competition which will all come down to opinion  based on genre and single player vs multiplayer

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about dude. Please, stop. If you continue to utter asinine nonsense I will just cease communication with you. World of Warcraft is a frickin' MMO. OF COURSE ITS FOCUSING ON MULTIPLAYER. What the hell are you talking about? Is Call of Duty an MMO? Um, no. It's a paid MMO? Um, no. Blizzard's business model and release schedule reflects that games MMO roots. I don't have a problem with Blizzard. Activision's Call of Duty however is touting itself a NEW GAMES EVERY YEAR with different subtitled names like (Modern Warfare and Black Ops) which is the same damn package just worded different. Call of Duty isn't an MMO. And if it wants to be and it takes o the World of Warcraft business model you won't see me criticize. You can't piss on my head and tell me it's raining dude. I'm not some easily influenced idiot. Or some pre-teen whose parents buy all his games for him. I'm a conscious consumer. Aware of what's being advertised and served to me. Call of Duty touts itself as a retail game, with a campaign experience worthy of 60 bucks. And it's not. If it wants to be an MMO, then you call Activision and tell them to announce that they will only release a Call of Duty every 2 or 3 years and support it with patches. Until then, screw you and Activision for selling half baked products lol 



Jaywood2010 on 14 March 2013
UnitSmiley said:
JayWood2010 said:
UnitSmiley said:
I only JUST got into God of War, so i'm not like a long time fan defending it or anything. But I seriously wouldn't count the PSP games if you are arguing that it's being over done.

It just seems like stretching to me.

God of War PS2 (2005)
God of War II PS2 (2007)

God of War Chains of Olympus PSP (2008)
God of War Ghost of Sparta PSP (2010)

God of War III PS3 (2010)
God of War Ascension PS3 (2013)

2 on each platform doesn't seem overdone to me. Especially since the PSP is a handheld. You can't really count the collection or origins imo. I suppose reviewers have to review them but they shouldn't let that affect their reviews of Ascension. Havn't played Ascension yet btw (besides multiplayer).

Reviewers have to review all of them.  They are also apart of the main series with similar playstyle.

Im not sure why everybody is acting like I'm saying something that is offesive to GoW.  Great series but it is hard to say that they dont release a ton of these games in a short amount of time. 


I didn't interpret what you said as offensive, I just disagree with it. I really don't even see the two PSP games (as good as they are) as part of the main series. I just finished both PSP games and GoW 1 within a few days of each other and today started GoW 2. GoW 2 doesn't even really reference the two PSP games (because it came out before them).

You can literally finish GoW 1 and go straight into GoW 2 and not have really missed anything.

Maybe it's just a personal thing but I've never really counted handheld versions of a franchise along with the main series. Kind of like how many people want Kingdom Hearts 3, but have never played any of the handheld spinoffs.

While I agree with what you are saying reviewers still have to review all of them which will play them out for reviewers.  Also many people (Not me) will play the PSP games as well and it does follow the main story line.  Personally Ive only played the main trilogy but it doesnt change that there is still 3 more games all with similar playstyle and reviewers will no longer be wowed by something that they have seen 5 previous times.  All im saying is that the wow factor is gone now.  

A lot of games is being milked now so im not just saying this about GoW.  Gears, Halo, Killzone, Mario, Zelda, Uncharted, Assassions Creed, etc.  All of these series has been milking there games but the thing is they are still good games so people dont care.  People are still going to buy god of war and im sure the gameplay is stil great but for the people coming in here (not you)  saying that I am so wrong then that is fine, but let's be honest here.  If you love god of war then great but people need not to lie about they have had a lot of releases in a short amount of time.




       

Jaywood2010 on 14 March 2013
Gamer_of_the_Year said:
JayWood2010 said:
Gamer_of_the_Year said:
JayWood2010 said:
Gamer_of_the_Year said:
JayWood2010 said:
Gamer_of_the_Year said:
JayWood2010 said:
-Newcloud- said:
Yet the new call of duty will be praised for have the same solid gameplay it's had since COD4.


Wrong.  this is a myth and an exageration by this point in the generation. 

Call of Duty 4 - 92 metacritic

Blackops II - 83 metacritic

Don't mistake popularity for critics over hyping it.  CoD4 and MW2 was original and deserved the scores it got.  They have declined since due to stale gameplay.

God of War: Ascension> Black Ops II

in fact.

God of War: Ascension>Modern Warfare 3

Either way, anyone who bashes God of War Ascension when it has the best gameplay the series has ever seen, then turns around and gives the stale, innovation-less series COD anything above a 70 can't be trusted.


You are acting like this is a fact.  I like how you are comparing your opinion with facts though. I also like how you are comparing two completely different genres.  I could easily go out and talk to the 20 million people who own the game and Im sure a lot of them would disagree with you.  Not sure why you are in here bashing CoD in the first place.  If you dont like it so be it, but this isnt the place for the discussion

I simply showed you proof that you was wrong.  God of War is being played out just like call of duty.  We have had how many god of war games in just the last 5 years?  Just like CoD people are getting played out on it.

No, it's a fact that CoD ceased to innovate its gameplay in any kind of significant or creative way since the original Modern Warfare. It is a glorified map update that people adore because of the multiplayer. Nothing more, nothing less. It's also a fact that activision hasn't given ANY thought or care whatsover to the campaign in years. I remember a few of the campaigns being 5-6 hours long lol. Really?! For a $60 retail game? A 6 hour campaign? Unacceptable.

So, know, you didn't prove me wrong in any way. Because Modern Warfare 3 and original Black Ops got glowing reviews and they were stale as ever. God of War is actually innovating and adding new elements to its experience each expansion (including a great multiplayer this year). Those are some more FACTS. And millions of pre-teens love Justin Beiber. Doesn't make his music and his appeal any less saccherine and lame. Popularity does not equal quality. I could care less if you find 10 million idiots who don't mind harking 60 bucks up a year for a map pack expansion for multiplayer.

What's the storyline in Call of Duty again? Don't worry, I'll wait.


Yes let's compare games to the music industry where you are forced to listened to mainstream via radio.

God of War is also a mainstram video game ;)

Anyways you are still basing things around your opinion rather than looking at the whole picture.  And to think reviewers are  reviewing call of duty only on its single player is laughable.  It is being reviewed not only by its single player but its addicting multiplayer that for whatever reason people still can not top besides other games that are on the same standards like Halo and Battlefield.  When you think of the best FPS games Halo, CoD, Battlefield will be in almost every discussion.  However CoD has steadily been getting lower reviews due to stale gameplay which ive mentioned before.  Still the game is addicting and it is why people keep flocking to stores buying it.  God of War is also the top of it's class in hack n slash so dont read that wrong.

God of War has had 4 games in 5 years yet you somehow think that is better?  not only is the gameplay getting stale by this point but it doesnt have an addicting multiplayer like CoD to fall back on.  Then there is the story which from reviews and even users has said it is significantly worst than previous god of war games.  

This by no means says that the gameplay is worst, but there is flaws in the game.  Im going to use Halo 4 as an example.  Most people will say technically that Halo 4 is better than halo 1 but it has lower reviews.  Why because it is no longer original.  Same thing goes to gears of war and Killzone.  Without innovation these games will not recieve a higher score.

You like God of War Ascension and that is great that you do but dont bash other people for having a different opinion than you or liking a different game.

No review of a video game should start with multiplayer. If Call of Duty wants to really just become a multiplayer game then release one big ass game PC style and send in patches every year. They release a $60 retail game EVERY. FREAKING. YEAR. For any reviewer not taking that into consideration when reviewing CoD really shouldn't have a job reviewing video games. Ignoring campaigns is a bad precendent to set in gaming. Online experience is secondary, alternative FEATURE. Not the main attraction. Again, if CoD's business model was just for multiplayer it doesn't require a new disc every year to do that.

Furthermore, I'm not bashing other people (or rather critics) for liking CoD. I'm pointing out the absolutely GLARING hypocrcisy involved in their chastisement of one title to another. You can't claim GoW:A is "more of the same" (because its not. I mean, it's really, really not.) and mark that as a negative and then turn around and give Call of Duty a higher score (because EVERYONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND KNOWS COD IS ALWAYS MORE OF THE SAME AND NOTHING MORE! lol). It makes you not only a hypocrite. But a horrible "journalist". Take a look at the websites who scored God of War Under an 80 or better yet even under an 85. And see what they gave CoD. It's higher in 90% of the reviews.

Gaming "journalism" is a cess pool. And it has to stop. Stop defending malpractice.

As I said before the reviews has been steadily dcling for call of duy.  You also are still basing your statements around opinions like single player over multiplayer which is simply not true.  Some games are more focused on multiplayer than single player.  For example World of Warcraft, counterstrike, unreal tournament, battlefield etc.  Call of Duty has single player but it is not the main attraction and you are very aware of that. It just sounds like to me that you dont care for multiplayer and have the mentality that they should review things according to what you like most.

Anyways I'm not going to argue this anymore.  I was just showing you that CoD scores has been getting lower and now this is a CoD vs GoW competition which will all come down to opinion  based on genre and single player vs multiplayer

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about dude. Please, stop. If you continue to utter asinine nonsense I will just cease communication with you. World of Warcraft is a frickin' MMO. OF COURSE ITS FOCUSING ON MULTIPLAYER. What the hell are you talking about? Is Call of Duty an MMO? Um, no. It's a paid MMO? Um, no. Blizzard's business model and release schedule reflects that games MMO roots. I don't have a problem with Blizzard. Activision's Call of Duty however is touting itself a NEW GAMES EVERY YEAR with different subtitled names like (Modern Warfare and Black Ops) which is the same damn package just worded different. Call of Duty isn't an MMO. And if it wants to be and it takes o the World of Warcraft business model you won't see me criticize. You can't piss on my head and tell me it's raining dude. I'm not some easily influenced idiot. Or some pre-teen whose parents buy all his games for him. I'm a conscious consumer. Aware of what's being advertised and served to me. Call of Duty touts itself as a retail game, with a campaign experience worthy of 60 bucks. And it's not. If it wants to be an MMO, then you call Activision and tell them to announce that they will only release a Call of Duty every 2 or 3 years and support it with patches. Until then, screw you and Activision for selling half baked products lol 


This is where i stopped reading.  You have shown me nothing to say that im wrong besides your opinions but ignoring that i said nothing bad about the game in the first place. Im done here.




       

Jaywood2010 on 14 March 2013
bananaking21 said:
JayWood2010 said:
bananaking21 said:
JayWood2010 said:
bananaking21 said:

and yes i agree with sony releasing quite a bit to much og GoW. but wasnt the last real release about 2 and half years ago with ghost of sparta? seems like a really reasonable to have between game releases. 


I realize that they are collections or remakes but reviewers still reviews them regardless which means by this point they may be played out on GoW.

As far as main releases they have had 6 in 8 years.  GoW trilogy, Chains of Olympus, Ghost of Sparta, and Ascension.

They sell well and people like them so why not

yeah i get your point. 

btw did you play the game?

No.  I have it on my gamefly list right now so im waiting. I am waiting ever so patiently XD lol  

lool i called up every store i know looking for the game, non had it. then i was running errands with my brother and we stopped by a place to fix my other brothers glasses, i saw a gaming store so i walked in, i saw he had the game and i started yelling "you have it man! you have it! i looked everywhere for it!" while pointing at GoW:A lol the son of bitch jacked up the price haha. still got it, and its worth every penny

btw you should run towards the closest store and buy it right away. forget the damn waiting lol and piece of advice, just let go of arguing with people on this thread, they are just going to think you hate the game and want to downplay it. its not worth the time

Agreed




       

veritaz on 14 March 2013

I don't get it either, ascension is amazing especially for a prequel. I am almost done with the game on hard and can say it is still the best hack and slash series ever created. Reviewers have become untrustworthy especially with all the bs reviews that have been happening. All the fans of god war seem to love it and that's all the matters. The campaign is an easy 95 and the multiplayer is new and spectacular.