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crissindahouse said:

ps4 won't be strictly about games neither, otherwise we couldn't watch movies with consoles or whatever else even this gen. the "everything only for the gamers" is just a myth even for ps4 but that microsoft tries to make a full multimedia machine out of the next console should everyone know nowadays even without the braid guy saying it. and i have absolutely no problem with it, i just can't use most the stuff here lol.

i just hope nextbox won't be much weaker as ps4 if it comes to gaming capabilities because then, even most ps4 games could suffer from it if nextbox+wii u would sell much more as ps4. maybe the same game would look better on ps4 but i don't think they would try as much as if ps4 and nextbox would be much closer in specs and those two consoles combined would dominate the market.

I don't think people care if a console has multi-media features, in fact most of use want that. But when they put multimedia over games that is crossing the line.



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Wright said:
Bad relationship with Microsoft? What a shame. I love the guy's ideas. Considering Braid debuted exclusively in the 360 and then later ported to every other platform, I thought they actually get along fine.

Tell that to Cliffy B and Rare because they don't seem to get along with MS.



Interesting. Looks like MS will go for some NAS DLNA netflix kinect box imo that plays games on the side.

Looks like the PS4 may be the PS2 of the next gen.



crissindahouse said:

ps4 won't be strictly about games neither, otherwise we couldn't watch movies with consoles or whatever else even this gen. the "everything only for the gamers" is just a myth even for ps4 but that microsoft tries to make a full multimedia machine out of the next console should everyone know nowadays even without the braid guy saying it. and i have absolutely no problem with it, i just can't use most the stuff here lol.

i just hope nextbox won't be much weaker as ps4 if it comes to gaming capabilities because then, even most ps4 games could suffer from it if nextbox+wii u would sell much more as ps4. maybe the same game would look better on ps4 but i don't think they would try as much as if ps4 and nextbox would be much closer in specs and those two consoles combined would dominate the market.


PS4 will have media features but is clearly focused on games as that was the message repeated again and again at their conference.



KingHades said:
Wright said:
Bad relationship with Microsoft? What a shame. I love the guy's ideas. Considering Braid debuted exclusively in the 360 and then later ported to every other platform, I thought they actually get along fine.

Tell that to Cliffy B and Rare because they don't seem to get along with MS.

Source?



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Nsanity said:
KingHades said:
Wright said:
Bad relationship with Microsoft? What a shame. I love the guy's ideas. Considering Braid debuted exclusively in the 360 and then later ported to every other platform, I thought they actually get along fine.

Tell that to Cliffy B and Rare because they don't seem to get along with MS.

Source?

I'm not saying it as a fact im saying it as how Cliffy B left Epic because he didn't want to be contracted into make Gears for the rest of his life which is a fact even IGn reported it in one of their Xbox conversations.

Rare hasn't made ONE I repeat ONE amazing game since Microsoft required them you can try and damage controll this,but im just stating facts.



Nsanity said:
KingHades said:
Wright said:
Bad relationship with Microsoft? What a shame. I love the guy's ideas. Considering Braid debuted exclusively in the 360 and then later ported to every other platform, I thought they actually get along fine.

Tell that to Cliffy B and Rare because they don't seem to get along with MS.

Source?

Oh and do I have to mention Bungie lol? If they were happy with making Halo they would have stayed with it instead of moving it on to another developer. Not only that,but they are giving PS3 owners timed DLC and I don't see them as having any regrets from leaving Microsoft.



The irony of these comments is that Microsoft actually has a pretty lax certification process. Putting games on the platform isn't all that difficult. Granted that the party putting the game on Live isn't looking for special consideration for their product. If they are then it stands to reason that they are going to have to go through some quality assurance. To protect the best interest of both the players, and of the company itself.

Microsoft does offer up a alternative to quality assurance. Hobbyists and Amateurs are constantly putting their games out there for sale on Live. Microsoft sets aside a listing in their marketplace for just those sort of games. What we aren't talking about here is the bare bones certification to get on to the platform, but the certification to get on the platform with benefits.

Those benefits being that Microsoft affords a game prime real estate on their service, actively promotes the product, and markets the product through media outlets. If Microsoft is going to throw its considerable weight behind something. Then it isn't just the developers reputation on the line anymore. It is also the reputation of Microsoft at stake. So then need to assure that a game is of sufficient quality.

I am not saying that effort to get through quality assurance isn't Herculean. It may very will be. I am just pointing out that he does have options other then going through that gauntlet. There doesn't seem to be anything blocking him from putting his titles on the platform. Honestly quality assurance is a tight rope that all manufacturers have to walk. While being pulled in both directions at the same time.

They make it too difficult and the lose out on some good games, and their customers lose out on some good games. They make it too easy, and a lot of crap slips through the cracks. Which means that their reputation as a platform takes a pounding, and their customers end up getting duped into buying lemons. Which is just as bad.

I don't know where Microsoft is with its quality assurance. I wouldn't necessarily take a developers word for it either. After all who doesn't want the world handed to them on a silver platter. I do know that outside of the junk yard that is the indie game section on Live. Most of what is presented to me for my consideration seems to be of a pretty high quality. So I really don't have much to complain about as a user of the service. I feel pretty safe purchasing content over Live.

It should be interesting moving forward to see what the quality assurance from all the players ends up looking like. Here is hoping that none of the players just leaves the barn doors open though. Atari should be a object lesson that nobody should forget. They let any and all developers do whatever they wanted on that platform, and we know how that turned out.



KingHades said:
Nsanity said:
KingHades said:
Wright said:
Bad relationship with Microsoft? What a shame. I love the guy's ideas. Considering Braid debuted exclusively in the 360 and then later ported to every other platform, I thought they actually get along fine.

Tell that to Cliffy B and Rare because they don't seem to get along with MS.

Source?

Oh and do I have to mention Bungie lol? If they were happy with making Halo they would have stayed with it instead of moving it on to another developer. Not only that,but they are giving PS3 owners timed DLC and I don't see them as having any regrets from leaving Microsoft.

The timed DLC was Activions call, also Bungie would have went bankrupt years ago if it were not for Microsoft.



KingHades said:
Nsanity said:
KingHades said:
Wright said:
Bad relationship with Microsoft? What a shame. I love the guy's ideas. Considering Braid debuted exclusively in the 360 and then later ported to every other platform, I thought they actually get along fine.

Tell that to Cliffy B and Rare because they don't seem to get along with MS.

Source?

I'm not saying it as a fact im saying it as how Cliffy B left Epic because he didn't want to be contracted into make Gears for the rest of his life which is a fact even IGn reported it in one of their Xbox conversations.

Rare hasn't made ONE I repeat ONE amazing game since Microsoft required them you can try and damage controll this,but im just stating facts.

Whisful thinking and facts are two completely different things.