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Aldro said:
Heavenly_King said:
Aldro said:
Heavenly_King said:
Aldro said:
pezus said:
EGM: "The graphics and sound are both top notch, and the gameplay itself may well be the best we’ve seen from the series."
-7/10

Wth??

It's the whole prequel thing. The story is nothing we really asked for. The reveal was basically "OMG GoWIV .. GoWIV!! ..Ascension? What?"

It cant be compared to if a GoWIV was announced and set the epitome of excitement to follow.

This by going in has you going: "Okay lets see" and by exiting: "Cool I guess".

It simply doesnt have that drive that the mainline entries do.

For instance:
I honestly thought Zeus would kill Kratos in GoW3, during the section where the ghost Zeus strangles you and all your bars fade away: I thought Kratos died and went to some odd Hell haha.

 

But really: Just look at the hype. It has nothing to do with how good SSM is.

The focus was put on the MP and the story just isn't as exciting. (Don't get me wrong I am hyped for it, but it doesnt generate for me atleast, close to the hype of GoWIII in terms of where they are taking the story. They even revealed the game with the MP in focus for like a year).

 

I am not saying they made a sloppy SP (I havent played it yet) its just THE SP they made was and is probably more gameplay of something we already have just refined somewhat. But people seem to say that it doesnt have as many "epic" moments as previous GoW games which I suspect can make the gameplay tedious. We've killed beasts in 5 games now, and if this is a game where 8 hours is spent on more beasts .. well.. I can kinda see the issue. Especially since with a hack and slash -> The gameplay truly is king. I am not saying GoWs gameplay is bad, its actually very good. But too much of anything and it starts to get stale.

 

You'd think that with the MP however, it would still gain a higher score (mid 80s). But at the same time: The reviewers are rarely impressed this late on what is the longest generation ever. We have barely seen one >90 game in a while and that's including A LOT and A LOT of games. (Out of the top of my head: Dishonored, Borderlands, Far Cry 3, Tomb Raider, Rising, Crysis 3, DMC, XCOM, Halo 4 and theres more).

I can not believe Ascension is being rated lower than DMC and Revengeance.  it is really insulting to the franchise.  hoprfully word of mouth will keep this game selling.

But Rising and DMC only had focus on the SP.

Ascension did not. The SP unlike the above, was NOT the focus.

Especially when the story if you go back 2 years ago wasn't even expected because its.. unneeded (sort of, you get what I mean).

Stig and the Level Designer for GoW1-2-3 for example are working on a new IP. I know that doesn't say much: But that also has got me thinking. Maybe that's also taking a lot of man power. Who knows what other people are onboard for that.

With GoW3 you just KNEW that this shit has some tremendous effort behind it. With GoWA the MP feels like an experiment and the SP is there to cater to us die hard fans and not so much the guys who don't really want to go deeper into Kratos (lets face it, not everyone loves the guy). And those who gave it a shot felt that they fell short. We cant possibly know until we play it.

They have "focused" in SP and their SP is quite crappy and short. If that is focus, I dont want to see what they would do if they dont focus on sp.

Regarding GOW: Ascension, with all I have seen, I can say that SP was as much focus as it was with GOW3 if not more, it is just they also put a lot of focus in mp.     The narrative is very Uncharted like which better than in GOW games; and they have the fantastic brutality and gameplay of GOW.  Also you can clearly see in those behind the scenes videos all the effort they put in making the story, the cutscenes, the gameplay; and it is way more sophisticated than in previous GOW games.  

Also, the story of this game IS needed, because I bet that it will setup the upcoming events of GOW4.

In the end, before saying the studio fucked it up or not, we have to play the game, so dont be so enthusiastic in throwing them crap.  They have always make stellar games, and I dont expect any different from this game.

Wont comment on everything else until I play the game(s):
But @the bolded => What if doesnt set it up for the coming GoW4? Won't you be disappointed? I know I will :[

EDIT: Holy shit awesome that the MP maps are free

The fact that the primordials have been mentioned, it confirmes that in the GOW universe, there are more powerful things than the Olympians and the Titans.  And maybe Athena is serving those things in GOW3.   Obviously they wont show you a dude, and say to you directly that it will be in the sequel, but I think that if you pay attention to the details and to the story you will be able to see the repercution of this game in GOW4.   You will see that characters and Bosses will make reference to the events of Ascension.

EDIT: If they began adding MP trophies I will be all over the place to get those trophies :D



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M.U.G.E.N said:
This is what Todd Pappy said over at gaf

"The reviews are not as high as I hoped, but I'm EXTREMELY proud of what we accomplished. If you read the reviews they say it plays like a God of War game...good that is what we were aiming for ;). The way I look at it, it comes down to the fans, if they like it then we did our job. Look COD, got 83 on metacritic but sold 20+ million, or Psychonauts critics loved it but the average gamer not so much.

Each area of the game has its own challenges. Certain SP levels are very complecated to create/design (Example - Hecaton. The opening level). Getting in and reworking Kratos/combat was a big challenge. The way we work everything really comes together late in the project. With MP, building the tech and design"formula" of how the game works/plays took ALONG time. We put people on it that were able to power through those challenges. I understand that some people look at the MP and discount it, but I believe there is a ton of great content there. Most importantly it feels like GOW, and plays different than everything out there ;)"

oh and it's confirmed, ALL FUTURE DLC MAPS WILL BE FREE!

Can you post a link to the thread please?  I want to see how the people reacted to this. :)



Despite the SCORES the reviewers are giving they ALL tend to think it is a VERY GOOD game. So I hope it gets the support/sales and love it deserves regardless. Like the one guy said if COD can do it then this should as well so the SONY and God Of War fans need to give that support!



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Heavenly_King said:
Aldro said:
Heavenly_King said:
Aldro said:
Heavenly_King said:
Aldro said:
pezus said:
EGM: "The graphics and sound are both top notch, and the gameplay itself may well be the best we’ve seen from the series."
-7/10

Wth??

It's the whole prequel thing. The story is nothing we really asked for. The reveal was basically "OMG GoWIV .. GoWIV!! ..Ascension? What?"

It cant be compared to if a GoWIV was announced and set the epitome of excitement to follow.

This by going in has you going: "Okay lets see" and by exiting: "Cool I guess".

It simply doesnt have that drive that the mainline entries do.

For instance:
I honestly thought Zeus would kill Kratos in GoW3, during the section where the ghost Zeus strangles you and all your bars fade away: I thought Kratos died and went to some odd Hell haha.

 

But really: Just look at the hype. It has nothing to do with how good SSM is.

The focus was put on the MP and the story just isn't as exciting. (Don't get me wrong I am hyped for it, but it doesnt generate for me atleast, close to the hype of GoWIII in terms of where they are taking the story. They even revealed the game with the MP in focus for like a year).

 

I am not saying they made a sloppy SP (I havent played it yet) its just THE SP they made was and is probably more gameplay of something we already have just refined somewhat. But people seem to say that it doesnt have as many "epic" moments as previous GoW games which I suspect can make the gameplay tedious. We've killed beasts in 5 games now, and if this is a game where 8 hours is spent on more beasts .. well.. I can kinda see the issue. Especially since with a hack and slash -> The gameplay truly is king. I am not saying GoWs gameplay is bad, its actually very good. But too much of anything and it starts to get stale.

 

You'd think that with the MP however, it would still gain a higher score (mid 80s). But at the same time: The reviewers are rarely impressed this late on what is the longest generation ever. We have barely seen one >90 game in a while and that's including A LOT and A LOT of games. (Out of the top of my head: Dishonored, Borderlands, Far Cry 3, Tomb Raider, Rising, Crysis 3, DMC, XCOM, Halo 4 and theres more).

I can not believe Ascension is being rated lower than DMC and Revengeance.  it is really insulting to the franchise.  hoprfully word of mouth will keep this game selling.

But Rising and DMC only had focus on the SP.

Ascension did not. The SP unlike the above, was NOT the focus.

Especially when the story if you go back 2 years ago wasn't even expected because its.. unneeded (sort of, you get what I mean).

Stig and the Level Designer for GoW1-2-3 for example are working on a new IP. I know that doesn't say much: But that also has got me thinking. Maybe that's also taking a lot of man power. Who knows what other people are onboard for that.

With GoW3 you just KNEW that this shit has some tremendous effort behind it. With GoWA the MP feels like an experiment and the SP is there to cater to us die hard fans and not so much the guys who don't really want to go deeper into Kratos (lets face it, not everyone loves the guy). And those who gave it a shot felt that they fell short. We cant possibly know until we play it.

They have "focused" in SP and their SP is quite crappy and short. If that is focus, I dont want to see what they would do if they dont focus on sp.

Regarding GOW: Ascension, with all I have seen, I can say that SP was as much focus as it was with GOW3 if not more, it is just they also put a lot of focus in mp.     The narrative is very Uncharted like which better than in GOW games; and they have the fantastic brutality and gameplay of GOW.  Also you can clearly see in those behind the scenes videos all the effort they put in making the story, the cutscenes, the gameplay; and it is way more sophisticated than in previous GOW games.  

Also, the story of this game IS needed, because I bet that it will setup the upcoming events of GOW4.

In the end, before saying the studio fucked it up or not, we have to play the game, so dont be so enthusiastic in throwing them crap.  They have always make stellar games, and I dont expect any different from this game.

Wont comment on everything else until I play the game(s):
But @the bolded => What if doesnt set it up for the coming GoW4? Won't you be disappointed? I know I will :[

EDIT: Holy shit awesome that the MP maps are free

The fact that the primordials have been mentioned, it confirmes that in the GOW universe, there are more powerful things than the Olympians and the Titans.  And maybe Athena is serving those things in GOW3.   Obviously they wont show you a dude, and say to you directly that it will be in the sequel, but I think that if you pay attention to the details and to the story you will be able to see the repercution of this game in GOW4.   You will see that characters and Bosses will make reference to the events of Ascension.

EDIT: If they began adding MP trophies I will be all over the place to get those trophies :D

Fuck, I don't want more games in the greek mythology :( I feel like it'll hurt the series if they continue..



TheBlackNaruto said:
Despite the SCORES the reviewers are giving they ALL tend to think it is a VERY GOOD game. So I hope it gets the support/sales and love it deserves regardless. Like the one guy said if COD can do it then this should as well so the SONY and God Of War fans need to give that support!

I really hope that too.  Fans of GOW, must support this game, and buy it!



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I said it earlier when it hit 76 meta. Itll be lucky to get/hold 80.



Aldro said:
I said it earlier when it hit 76 meta. Itll be lucky to get/hold 80.

The reviews out today are better than previous... even some 10/10... I can't see it going less than 79.

Actual Metacritic: 80



ethomaz said:
Aldro said:
I said it earlier when it hit 76 meta. Itll be lucky to get/hold 80.

The reviews out today are better than previous... even some 10/10... I can't see it going less than 79.

Actual Metacritic: 80

Wait, 10's? Who gave 10's? Are they sites that are usually added to meta?

My problem was that I couldn't see anyone give this game a 10.

Also, I am calling it: Expect atleast 1 score under 4-5/10. That's whats going to keep Ascension from 80.



I've been playing this for the past few days, it's pretty good.



Aldro said:

Wait, 10's? Who gave 10's? Are they sites that are usually added to meta?

My problem was that I couldn't see anyone give this game a 10.

Also, I am calling it: Expect atleast 1 score under 4-5/10. That's whats going to keep Ascension from 80.

This site give it a 10: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2289756/God-War-Ascension-review-PS3.html

  • Stunning visuals and improved camera makes gameplay best yet
  • Puzzles are back and better, although are arguably too difficult
  • Gruesome finishing moves and improved battle dynamics
  • Two-player co-operative and eight-player multiplayer modes

But it will not added to meta... instead there are a good scores to be added:

IGN Italy: 9/10