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MARCUSDJACKSON on 25 February 2013
BuckStud said:
platformmaster918 said:

Does this change effect any of your predictions for when the gap will close?


Some people seem so desperate to see the PS3 out of last place, but a lot of the sales of PS3 systems have been by people who use them almost exclusively for Blu Ray movies.  So if the PS3 does in the end outsell the Xbox 360, what does it really matter?  Almost all multi-platform games have sold better on the 360 and Sony's own PS3 games of late have not sold well at all.  As for me, I really don't care how many systems and one of them sell, as long as they are able to continue making great games.

no it doesn't. we can't say for sure what % of PS3's sold were for the purpose of being BluRay movie players.



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easyrider on 25 February 2013
cookingyourmama said:
easyrider said:
Munkeh111 said:
It is kind of irrelevant. By now, so many people have bought multiple consoles for various reasons and many have just stopped using their consoles all together

The real thing that matters is software sales and money made, which M$ wins by far

This gen can count as nothing but an M$ win given last gen



Yep they played their cards nice. Also MS can drop price anytime and widen the gap. I suspect some are going to hold off on buying after the PS4 reveal. So I would suspect lower sales for ps3.

Not sure why the passing really matters. MS won everywhere they needed to win and for them to hold off Sony for this long was a achievement. They had RROD and went up against the highest selling console maker ever ( Besides DS). They essentially Split the market share and it is still in their favor. Gained massive third party support and got some more first party. I suspect next gen is going to be all about first party building and thats what we are going to see coming out of the gate from MS. They have been building up studio's for some time now.

So who really won over all? who gained the most this gen? 360 owns North america/UK and that is no easy feet. Now to build on that.

So Sony fans need any bit of good information they can get. Sometimes it's almost delusional.

Lol wow, just wow, to quote a word you used yourself, delusional.


Last gen XBox Sold 24 million consoles, PS2 sold 155 million.  So who gained market share??????  Who gained the most third party support? Final Fantasy, Metal Gear,  Resident Evil... Demon/Dark Souls in general, Star Ocean, Tales games, Castlevania both SOTN & LOS., Prince of Persia, Devil May Cry, Ace combat, Ridge Racer........

Units sold don't mean shit if you lost 5 billion dollars.

"Sony has lost ~5 billion dollars on the PS3. It is the worst financial disaster in gaming history, losing more money for its parent company than either the Dreamcast or original Xbox."

 So I'm delusional. YOu only care about how many moved units, nothing else. Wow talk about hearing what you want to hear.  not the business end. WTF do you think they are doing it for? YOU!!! Lolololol. It's for money.

For a company that moved 155 million units last gen. They should have passed MS in the first year however they still have not passed them and lost a whole bunch of market share and third party support.

 

Lets be clear. Your the one not looking at all the facts. I am.

 



cookingyourmama on 25 February 2013
kowenicki said:
cookingyourmama said:
kowenicki said:
cookingyourmama said:
kowenicki said:
Turkish said:
walsufnir said:
Wow, so Sony managed to reduce the "headstart" of x360, which resulted in a diff of ~6.7 million sold, to 1.3 million in about 5 - 6 years. Impressive.


Wut, the gap was 9 million just before PS3 Slim released.


No it wasn't.  Never got above 8.  

But that wasn't his point, he was saying that at launch it was 5.4m it had as an head start.  So it has taken 7 years t get from 5.4 to 1.3.

Incredible really isn't it, given the power of playstation. 

Sure that's if you pretend that the PS3 wasn't released an extra half a year later in Europe (Sony's biggest selling region) and you also pretend the gap really is 1.3 million when in reality Vgchartz numbers need updating and the gap is much less.


Here he is... You were quiet around qtr release day this time.. Lol

As opposed to here you are....

Nope not quiet for the qtr, why would i be, the numbers were as expected yet Vgchartz has failed to update the numbers properly yet.

It was nice that you addressed the points i made in my post.....


I wouldn't say the gap is much less. It's still north of 1m that's for sure.  Did you ever post in the infamous "when will ps3 overtake 360" thread back in 2008? 

Well it's not 'for sure' that the gap is over 1 million, for that to be true the PS3 would need to have over 500,000 more consoles sat on store shelves compared to the 360 for that to be true.



phenom08 on 25 February 2013

Will the PS4 take 6 years to catch the WiiU?



cookingyourmama on 25 February 2013
easyrider said:
cookingyourmama said:
easyrider said:
Munkeh111 said:
It is kind of irrelevant. By now, so many people have bought multiple consoles for various reasons and many have just stopped using their consoles all together

The real thing that matters is software sales and money made, which M$ wins by far

This gen can count as nothing but an M$ win given last gen



Yep they played their cards nice. Also MS can drop price anytime and widen the gap. I suspect some are going to hold off on buying after the PS4 reveal. So I would suspect lower sales for ps3.

Not sure why the passing really matters. MS won everywhere they needed to win and for them to hold off Sony for this long was a achievement. They had RROD and went up against the highest selling console maker ever ( Besides DS). They essentially Split the market share and it is still in their favor. Gained massive third party support and got some more first party. I suspect next gen is going to be all about first party building and thats what we are going to see coming out of the gate from MS. They have been building up studio's for some time now.

So who really won over all? who gained the most this gen? 360 owns North america/UK and that is no easy feet. Now to build on that.

So Sony fans need any bit of good information they can get. Sometimes it's almost delusional.

Lol wow, just wow, to quote a word you used yourself, delusional.


Last gen XBox Sold 24 million consoles, PS2 sold 155 million.  So who gained market share??????  Who gained the most third party support? Final Fantasy, Metal Gear,  Resident Evil... Demon/Dark Souls in general, Star Ocean, Tales games, Castlevania both SOTN & LOS., Prince of Persia, Devil May Cry, Ace combat, Ridge Racer........

Units sold don't mean shit if you lost 5 billion dollars.

"Sony has lost ~5 billion dollars on the PS3. It is the worst financial disaster in gaming history, losing more money for its parent company than either the Dreamcast or original Xbox."

 So I'm delusional. YOu only care about how many moved units, nothing else. Wow talk about hearing what you want to hear.  not the business end. WTF do you think they are doing it for? YOU!!! Lolololol. It's for money.

For a company that moved 155 million units last gen. They should have passed MS in the first year however they still have not passed them and lost a whole bunch of market share and third party support.

 

Lets be clear. Your the one not looking at all the facts. I am.

 

Lol nope, just because the competition last gen failed miserably to finish above the PS2 doesn't change the fact that this gen the 360 will end up finishing behind the PS3 and now the Wii has dropped like a rock the PS3 has a chance of outselling that as well. A win's still a win wether you like it or not.

And yet again you talk about gaining third party support, so what? That's what happens when you do so badly in the previous gen, the PS3 hasn't lost anything that matters, it still has the best library of core games.

When all is said and done the PS3 will have outsold the 360, either outsold or come close to the wii, have the most amount of million sellers, will have sold the most amount of consoles per year on sale, will have sold the most amount of software per year on sale, will have the most amount of top rated games and will have introduced more top selling and top rated new core ips than anybody else. And it will have done all of this whilst launching a year after the 360 in Japan and America, a year and a half after the 360 in Europe/half a year later than the Wii in Europe, and all whilst being launched at $600 considerably more expensive than the competition.

Yep, just the facts.



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nightsurge on 25 February 2013

If the PS3 was shipping so well, you'd think Sony would post it's numbers separately from the PS2. Odd to clump them together all the sudden in the last year or so.



cookingyourmama on 25 February 2013
nightsurge said:
If the PS3 was shipping so well, you'd think Sony would post it's numbers separately from the PS2. Odd to clump them together all the sudden in the last year or so.

They do that because they want to hide the Vita numbers which are very poor, they can't clump together the Vita and PSP numbers without doing the same for the PS2/PS3.



Sensei on 25 February 2013

The gap is too small to be significant now.

And 360 is the slowest selling console.



Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 on 25 February 2013

Wait, is there actually an adjustment? Or not?



Yay!!!

Sensei on 25 February 2013
Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:
Wait, is there actually an adjustment? Or not?


I'm guessing not. PS3 weekly sales were added and the bar went up, that's all.

Same for Vita, the bar was frozen at 4.1M now it finally managed to crawl up to 4.2M (selling about 25k per week takes 4 weeks to move 0.1 in the bar... sigh).