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Forums - Microsoft Discussion - Prediction made in February: Microsofts NextBox is a region locked media box with few games... *Revisited*

Heavenly_King on 30 May 2013
DanneSandin said:

As you might have seen as of late I have claimed to have inside information of the gaming industry. I have tried to make people understand why Nintendo isn't getting any 3rd party support and I have made bold (but fairly vague wording to protect my source) predictions for Sony's upcoming e3.

And now I have inside information of Microsoft and their next Xbox. And it's no pretty read. Brace yourself.

First of all, this is nothing I'm actually predicting, but what I've heard from my source from a 3rd party developer working on nextGen titles...

TAKE THIS WITH A GRAIN OF SALT! My source has more info about the PS4 since that's what he's been working with, so I don't know how accurate the rumors found here will turn out to be.

Microsoft will apparently be focusing their e3 presentation around the media functionality of the NextBox, because they don't have too many games ready.

The 720 will also be region locked...

And it will launch with VERY FEW games.

Also, Xbox is losing one of their exclusive games....

I'll try to put this in the same way as my source put it to me (I don't know if this is speculation or what is actually happening right now over at MS): "They're running around shitting their pants [...] They fucked up."

With the little information I have right now the 720 will look VERY disappointing to a great many people. BUT, I also would like to point out that this certainly must be subject for change, and if the situation changes I will let you know.

considering how their reveal went I guess they are going to change their E3, right?



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Shinobi-san on 30 May 2013
superchunk said:
I don't see how you were right.

This is concerning E3, but their reveal specifically stated that the reveal was for the console and its media capabilities while E3 will be a focus on game.

I stated in a thread from May 2012... that's a year ago.. that MS (and to and extent others) would be equally focused on services and games for their upcoming consoles. My prediction (no insider source) was clearly more accurate than your OP.

In fact, when E3 comes, your OP could be 100% wrong as they could show off 10-20 games coming at launch with say 3-5 exclusives and that clearly goes against your OP.

Sorry man, but I don't think you can claim victory yet unless E3 truly only shows the obvious multiplats (that are even coming to PS360) and like 1 or 3 nextgen only games or better yet 1 or no exclusives.

I think its obvious that the E3 got mixed with the reveal event. This was not a prediction but insider information which can obviously change at any time.

There was also rumours that MS was not going to do a reveal event and that they will wait for E3. It was only until recently when we started getting concrete rumours about the console reveal event.

Other than that the information highlighted in the OP is correct. And as far as im aware no1 else went out their way to highlight the complete focus on media and lack of games, which is exactly what happened at the reveal.

I think we should give credit where credit is due. I mean it's literally impossible to prove these things and DS got pretty much everything correct. Also this is from Feb!



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Shinobi-san on 30 May 2013
wfz said:
kowenicki said:

Region locked and media focus was a given.  But you even go that wrong... E3 is games. Lol

Very few games. Define "very few" please.

This is a load of nonsense.

When it comes to MS.... I'd wager I have more inside info than you.


No offense DS, but I feel similar to Kowenicki about this. Your projections were so vague that anyone who works in our industry could have written them. The way you wrote them also leaves a lot up for interpretation, making it harder for anyone to prove your guesses/insight wrong.

You probably want to stealth edit your OP to replace E3 with reveal conference, btw. :P Unless you still think E3 won't be about games, which Microsoft said it would. 

I dont think he should stealth edit that....

IMO it gives more credibility to the insider info.



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superchunk on 30 May 2013
Shinobi-san said:

I think its obvious that the E3 got mixed with the reveal event. This was not a prediction but insider information which can obviously change at any time.

There was also rumours that MS was not going to do a reveal event and that they will wait for E3. It was only until recently when we started getting concrete rumours about the console reveal event.

Other than that the information highlighted in the OP is correct. And as far as im aware no1 else went out their way to highlight the complete focus on media and lack of games, which is exactly what happened at the reveal.

I think we should give credit where credit is due. I mean it's literally impossible to prove these things and DS got pretty much everything correct. Also this is from Feb!

MS stated before their reveal that it would only focus on OS and services. Games would be at E3.

Yes the OP info could of clearly got E3 vs reveal mixed, but the OPs point is that it won't have any games because MS is way behind. That is not proven or disproven yet and I personally think will be wrong come E3.

As I pointed out in my post, I have a thread (that I recently talked about being right on) that did state MS would have as big or larger focus on media/entertainment as it will on games.

Additionally quite a few of us always maintained that MS would have to have a reveal prior to E3. Its just too obvious to not happen.

When E3 comes, if almost no games are slated for launch beyond the common multiplats, then yes OPs source was spot on.

Personally, I also think this PS4 and WiiU threads are factually wrong. Especially the WiiU thread.



michael_stutzer on 30 May 2013

I don't know any major exclusive outside of Halo (which will stay exclusive), so you were incorrect.



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Shinobi-san on 30 May 2013
superchunk said:
Shinobi-san said:

I think its obvious that the E3 got mixed with the reveal event. This was not a prediction but insider information which can obviously change at any time.

There was also rumours that MS was not going to do a reveal event and that they will wait for E3. It was only until recently when we started getting concrete rumours about the console reveal event.

Other than that the information highlighted in the OP is correct. And as far as im aware no1 else went out their way to highlight the complete focus on media and lack of games, which is exactly what happened at the reveal.

I think we should give credit where credit is due. I mean it's literally impossible to prove these things and DS got pretty much everything correct. Also this is from Feb!

MS stated before their reveal that it would only focus on OS and services. Games would be at E3.

Yes the OP info could of clearly got E3 vs reveal mixed, but the OPs point is that it won't have any games because MS is way behind. That is not proven or disproven yet and I personally think will be wrong come E3.

As I pointed out in my post, I have a thread (that I recently talked about being right on) that did state MS would have as big or larger focus on media/entertainment as it will on games.

Additionally quite a few of us always maintained that MS would have to have a reveal prior to E3. Its just too obvious to not happen.

When E3 comes, if almost no games are slated for launch beyond the common multiplats, then yes OPs source was spot on.

Personally, I also think this PS4 and WiiU threads are factually wrong. Especially the WiiU thread.

This was done in Feb Superchunk. It was rumoured then that MS would not do a pre E3 reveal. At that point in time there was no reveal event.

So take all the information from the OP and apply it to the reveal not E3. Obviously things changed over the months. Actual rumours of the pre e3 event only came up recently as in rumours from insiders, not random guesses from people on forums. Theres a difference.

And yeah MS didnt show much games at the reveal so i think OP was correct for the reveal. Whether E3 shows games or not is irrelevant.

And to be honest nobody saw the complete focus on multimedia coming. Nobody. Yeah people were saying it would have great multimedia capabilities..but not a single person predicted the complete and total focus on that aspect of the console for almost the entire reveal event. Which amazingly enough is exactly what happend...plus almost zero focus on games.

Both of us can probably spin this to suite our opinion but imo this is already done and the OP's info seems 100% correct and validated as of right now. If you choose to take the OP as is and not assume things obviously changed since Feb internally at MS then thats your own thing i guess. I dont see how anyone can prove they have insider info then if thats the case.

Not sure why you bringing up the other threads that is not being discussed here.



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Soleron on 30 May 2013

Someone with that much info would know there would be a pre-E3 reveal. Events of that scale in May most certainly exist in a concrete form in Feb.



hinch on 30 May 2013
michael_stutzer said:
I don't know any major exclusive outside of Halo (which will stay exclusive), so you were incorrect.

Gears of War?



michael_stutzer on 30 May 2013
hinch said:
michael_stutzer said:
I don't know any major exclusive outside of Halo (which will stay exclusive), so you were incorrect.

Gears of War?

Yeah that too. I don't know how I forgot it, came here to edit the post. Though  the chances can be rounded to zero as well.



hinch on 30 May 2013
michael_stutzer said:
hinch said:
michael_stutzer said:
I don't know any major exclusive outside of Halo (which will stay exclusive), so you were incorrect.

Gears of War?

Yeah that too. I don't know how I forgot it, came here to edit the post. Though  the chances can be rounded to zero as well.

Thats the only big exclusive game I can think of, off the top of my head. Since Epic owns the IP and not MS.

But yeah, you're right.. it's not going to happen lol.