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bananaking21 on 21 February 2013
AgentZorn said:
Yeah it's possible. The game will be a corridor simulator running at 1 fps.


it still wouldnt do that. let me put it this way, for a program like maya to achieve realism it renders many passes of photo's which then artist composite to make a video/pic. just one picture of a photorealstic scene could literally take up over an hour to render on a pc as strong as the ps4. depends on the scene of course, the number of passes, but you get my point



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Slimebeast on 21 February 2013
Conegamer said:

It does look good, but didn't we see this with the PS3 as well?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9QbYWEd7AE

 

I'll wait until the games arrive, but photorealism? Far, far from it as of now.

Wow, good find. The exact same thing that the Quantic Dream guy showed us yesterday and made a big deal out of, only 8 years (!) earlier.



Conegamer on 21 February 2013
Slimebeast said:
Conegamer said:

It does look good, but didn't we see this with the PS3 as well?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9QbYWEd7AE

 

I'll wait until the games arrive, but photorealism? Far, far from it as of now.

Wow, good find. The exact same thing that the Quantic Dream guy showed us yesterday and made a big deal out of, only 8 years (!) earlier.

Yep, it's amazing how easily people forget. That was 8 years ago; technology has moved on so far since then but did that Quantic Dream demo look that much better? Arguably not. And we've seen so many half-truths and doctored screens, videos, demos etc. that I just can't believe something that isn't the final product right now.

So I think people may need to just settle down a little bit; on all sides.



 

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bananaking21 on 21 February 2013
Conegamer said:

It does look good, but didn't we see this with the PS3 as well?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9QbYWEd7AE

 

I'll wait until the games arrive, but photorealism? Far, far from it as of now.


the QD demo is miles better than this one, the subsurface scattering is just soo much better in the old man. the details, textures and facial animations are just more advanced in the QD demo. the res as well is really different. (of the model, textures and maps)



Conegamer on 21 February 2013
bananaking21 said:
Conegamer said:

It does look good, but didn't we see this with the PS3 as well?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9QbYWEd7AE

 

I'll wait until the games arrive, but photorealism? Far, far from it as of now.


the QD demo is miles better than this one, the subsurface scattering is just soo much better in the old man. the details, textures and facial animations are just more advanced in the QD demo. the res as well is really different. (of the model, textures and maps)

That's not the point. That demo was 8 years ago when people were new to the HD tech and CELL architecture, and yet it still looks much better than anything seen in any PS3 game. So if that's the case, it naturally follows that the QD demo won't actually be reached in any game, and shall remain just that: a tech demo.



 

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MARCUSDJACKSON on 21 February 2013

mainly Sony 1st party studios will take advantage of this, unless Square Enix makes exclusive FF games for PS4, and CC make Exclusive MonsterHunter once their exclusive del with ninty is up.



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Attoyou on 21 February 2013

Nah, a massive increase in ram is only going to = a bit better looking ps3 game. Haven't you heard?



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bananaking21 on 21 February 2013
Conegamer said:
bananaking21 said:
Conegamer said:

It does look good, but didn't we see this with the PS3 as well?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9QbYWEd7AE

 

I'll wait until the games arrive, but photorealism? Far, far from it as of now.


the QD demo is miles better than this one, the subsurface scattering is just soo much better in the old man. the details, textures and facial animations are just more advanced in the QD demo. the res as well is really different. (of the model, textures and maps)

That's not the point. That demo was 8 years ago when people were new to the HD tech and CELL architecture, and yet it still looks much better than anything seen in any PS3 game. So if that's the case, it naturally follows that the QD demo won't actually be reached in any game, and shall remain just that: a tech demo.


something i already said in this post but fyi the quality of the facial animations was reached, with uncharted, last of us, beyond two souls and la noire.



kain_kusanagi on 21 February 2013

There is no chance the PS4 or any 8th gen console OR any PC in the next 10 years will achieve photorealism.

The Quantic Dreams demo is impressive, but it is so far from photorealism that I'm surpised you'd use it as an example.



Trunkin on 21 February 2013
Gilgamesh said:
bananaking21 said:
that quantic dream is certainly amazing, but no way will they pull that level of realism in game. still cant wait what they will pull off with the PS4, looking at how amazing beyond looks, there ps4 game will look outstanding

But look what they were capab le of doing other time wiht the PS3

The first games out always look the worst. At the end of the PS4 life shouldn't the QD model look pretty damn close to what they can do?

Did PS3 games ever reach this level?

EDIT: Damn it! Conegamer beat me to it!