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Andrespetmonkey on 21 February 2013

Well it doesn't radically change the design so if I didn't like the added functionality it wouldn't matter because it otherwise functions like a DS3



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keroncoward on 21 February 2013
hatmoza said:
See, if they were trying to sell games solely on the functions of the new controller in actual gameplay, yes, I would call it a gimmick. They didn't go around showing us gameplay using the new touch pad, rather it was there to compliment the controller.

Even though the controller has all these new features, they didn't try to sell it as the defining point of the PS4. That alone assures me that this controller won't be a gimmick. Rather, it will hold well in the transition to the next gen.


The fact that they redesigned the controller and put a motion sensor in front along with a touch pad says enough. I dont think there was a defining point they tried to sell everything equally. It started off with them introducing lots of different features and they kept repeating the slogan "new ways to play". That is considered "gimmicks" from what a lof of Sony supporters say on this site. I have no problem with it cause they actually showed trying new things can and will be fun. The conference would be very boring if they just announced 8GB of RAM and showed off the games....agree?



keroncoward on 21 February 2013
theprof00 said:
keroncoward said:
theprof00 said:
I'm sensing hostility.
I love all the consoles. And yes, they all have gimmicks.


Maybe you should stick to your 5 senses lol. Anything other than that you will be considered crazy. Anyway so you dont think its innovation youre sticking with it being a gimmic? Will you quit playing since they are forcing you to use these gimmics?

Bad liar. :D Openly hostile

Hopefully, you'll be able to take my answer at face value when I say that the touchpad is the embrace of the mobile game. Mobile games will be easily portable back and forth between ps4 and phone, due to this control style. It opens up a market for their own phone line as well, so that they can focus on cross platform games rather than one or the other.

I don't believe it will be extensively used for core gaming, but for secondary features like web navigation, mobile games like angry birds, porting of titles between vita. If you don't have a vita, you don't know how easy the trackpad is to use and it's functions.

In short, the trackpad will share a minor role in core games, but will really shine outside of such.


I dont own a Vita but i know for a FACT the touch pad and touch screen was used more than once to play those so called hardcore games....Uncharted Golden Abyss is a good example.



Andrespetmonkey on 21 February 2013
keroncoward said:
hatmoza said:
See, if they were trying to sell games solely on the functions of the new controller in actual gameplay, yes, I would call it a gimmick. They didn't go around showing us gameplay using the new touch pad, rather it was there to compliment the controller.

Even though the controller has all these new features, they didn't try to sell it as the defining point of the PS4. That alone assures me that this controller won't be a gimmick. Rather, it will hold well in the transition to the next gen.


The fact that they redesigned the controller and put a motion sensor in front along with a touch pad says enough. I dont think there was a defining point they tried to sell everything equally. It started off with them introducing lots of different features and they kept repeating the slogan "new ways to play". That is considered "gimmicks" from what a lof of Sony supporters say on this site. I have no problem with it cause they actually showed trying new things can and will be fun. The conference would be very boring if they just announced 8GB of RAM and showed off the games....agree?

They hardly redesigned the controller. Aside from the select/start buttons, everything from the DS3 is on the DS4, even the basic mould is similar. Functionalities were added but not replaced



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keroncoward on 21 February 2013
Andrespetmonkey said:
keroncoward said:
hatmoza said:
See, if they were trying to sell games solely on the functions of the new controller in actual gameplay, yes, I would call it a gimmick. They didn't go around showing us gameplay using the new touch pad, rather it was there to compliment the controller.

Even though the controller has all these new features, they didn't try to sell it as the defining point of the PS4. That alone assures me that this controller won't be a gimmick. Rather, it will hold well in the transition to the next gen.


The fact that they redesigned the controller and put a motion sensor in front along with a touch pad says enough. I dont think there was a defining point they tried to sell everything equally. It started off with them introducing lots of different features and they kept repeating the slogan "new ways to play". That is considered "gimmicks" from what a lof of Sony supporters say on this site. I have no problem with it cause they actually showed trying new things can and will be fun. The conference would be very boring if they just announced 8GB of RAM and showed off the games....agree?

They hardly redesigned the controller. Aside from the select/start buttons, everything from the DS3 is on the DS4, even the basic mould is similar. Functionalities were added but not replaced


I never said anything was replaced but im glad you acknowledge and  agree that so called "gimmicks" was added.



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gigantor21 on 21 February 2013

keroncoward said: 

Are those considered gimmicks also or is it innovation all of a sudden? 

What's the matter, dude? You seem upset about something. :p

At any rate, I feel like the touchpad is the least obtrusive looking control add-on we've seen of late. I can also see it having various practical applications, as well, particularly in stuff like menu navigation and so forth, that doesn't bastardize the core gaming experience for no good reason. That it's built around a controller with the same overall shape and layout of the DualShock, and that Sony didn't make it out to be some huge paradigm shift (thank God), gives me some hope.

I just hope we don't see a bunch of gimmicky touch crap tacked on to games like with the Vita. Just let devs do what they want with it--and if they don't want to do anything with it, leave them alone.



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theprof00 on 21 February 2013
keroncoward said:


I dont own a Vita but i know for a FACT the touch pad and touch screen was used more than once to play those so called hardcore games....Uncharted Golden Abyss is a good example.

sorry, I'm just not sure what your point is. No offense, I just literally don't know.

Is it that ps4 controller doesn't have a touchscreen, just a touchpad? Or are you countering what I said about "little use in core games"?



M.U.G.E.N on 21 February 2013

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keroncoward on 21 February 2013
theprof00 said:
keroncoward said:


I dont own a Vita but i know for a FACT the touch pad and touch screen was used more than once to play those so called hardcore games....Uncharted Golden Abyss is a good example.

sorry, I'm just not sure what your point is. No offense, I just literally don't know.

Is it that ps4 controller doesn't have a touchscreen, just a touchpad? Or are you countering what I said about "little use in core games"?


I made my point at the start of the thread. If you didnt understand why did you even bother typing a comment? Im stating that PS4 will have so called "gimmicks" obviously and they will surely put the use of them in the games. If not they would not bother packing in a motion sensor and track pad on every controller, it would be an optional add on. They even kept repeating the slogan "new ways to play".



keroncoward on 21 February 2013
gigantor21 said:

keroncoward said: 

Are those considered gimmicks also or is it innovation all of a sudden? 

What's the matter, dude? You seem upset about something. :p

At any rate, I feel like the touchpad is the least obtrusive looking control add-on we've seen of late. I can also see it having various practical applications, as well, particularly in stuff like menu navigation and so forth, that doesn't bastardize the core gaming experience for no good reason. That it's built around a controller with the same overall shape and layout of the DualShock, and that Sony didn't make it out to be some huge paradigm shift (thank God), gives me some hope.

I just hope we don't see a bunch of gimmicky touch crap tacked on to games like with the Vita. Just let devs do what they want with it--and if they don't want to do anything with it, leave them alone.


Im asking a question, how am i upset? I already explained to someone else im not upset. Maybe some are upset because i started a thread asking a question to expose the obvious bias in this community?