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Ehhh I'd rather have my physical media play on the PS4. Not that big of a deal though if it isn't B/C.



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A203D said:
I'm personally not that keen on the idea of streaming games. Mainly because my internet connection is not that good. I hope they give you the option of downloading streamable games so that you have the option of putting them on your hard drive if your internet connection is not 100% reliable.


Here is MY problem.

"PSone runs on the PlayStation 2 through emulation rather than actual hardware. PlayStation 3 will offer the same compatibility for PS2 software and the format will continue forever,"....Ken Kurtargi.

This guy believed BC was an absolute HAVE TO in order to keep people locked into the brand during the transition from one console to the next. Now all of a sudden, we get no PS1 AND PS2 compatibility and only get PS3's in a limited way via streaming? Come on. I plan on getting a PS4, but I'm not into the whole "lets strip something out just so we can resell old games later" way of thinking.



I really hope next gen consoles stay away from facebook/twitter. Makes my news feed so annoying.



prayformojo said:
A203D said:
I'm personally not that keen on the idea of streaming games. Mainly because my internet connection is not that good. I hope they give you the option of downloading streamable games so that you have the option of putting them on your hard drive if your internet connection is not 100% reliable.


Here is MY problem.

"PSone runs on the PlayStation 2 through emulation rather than actual hardware. PlayStation 3 will offer the same compatibility for PS2 software and the format will continue forever,"....Ken Kurtargi.

This guy believed BC was an absolute HAVE TO in order to keep people locked into the brand during the transition from one console to the next. Now all of a sudden, we get no PS1 AND PS2 compatibility and only get PS3's in a limited way via streaming? Come on. I plan on getting a PS4, but I'm not into the whole "lets strip something out just so we can resell old games later" way of thinking.

What are you talking about? PS1 and PS2 emulation is expected. Also the only other way to get PS3 BC would be sticking 90% of a PS3 in the PS4.



JoeTheBro said:
prayformojo said:
A203D said:
I'm personally not that keen on the idea of streaming games. Mainly because my internet connection is not that good. I hope they give you the option of downloading streamable games so that you have the option of putting them on your hard drive if your internet connection is not 100% reliable.


Here is MY problem.

"PSone runs on the PlayStation 2 through emulation rather than actual hardware. PlayStation 3 will offer the same compatibility for PS2 software and the format will continue forever,"....Ken Kurtargi.

This guy believed BC was an absolute HAVE TO in order to keep people locked into the brand during the transition from one console to the next. Now all of a sudden, we get no PS1 AND PS2 compatibility and only get PS3's in a limited way via streaming? Come on. I plan on getting a PS4, but I'm not into the whole "lets strip something out just so we can resell old games later" way of thinking.

What are you talking about? PS1 and PS2 emulation is expected. Also the only other way to get PS3 BC would be sticking 90% of a PS3 in the PS4.

Where did you read you'll be able to play PS1 and PS2 games on the PS4? And I don't think it's an issue of cost. Sony made the "official" statment back when they were removing BC, that is was about cost. But the ONLY reason the PS3 carried such a heafty price tag was due to the BD drive being so expensive. Imo, they removed BC because they had the foresight of HD remakes AND, lets not forget, the PS2 carried a VERY sweet profit margin. If the PS3 continued on as being a wonder machine, PS2 sales would have been cannibalized. Sony couldn't afford that at the time since the loss on PS3 hardware was so great.

They should stick a cell chip in the thing, and whatever marginal loss is a result of that, they should eat. Having a PS4 that could play PS1,PS2 AND PS3 games? It wouldn't do much for the casual gamer, but the core would rejoice. I'm getting one anyway, but it would make it that much sweeter.



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Things are starting to get interesting about what type of experiences Sony wants to provide with PS4.

Anyway, son we will all know if this rumor is true and most important: what types of games Sony will bring to their new system.



yes yes yes screw physical media :D



prayformojo said:
JoeTheBro said:
prayformojo said:
A203D said:
I'm personally not that keen on the idea of streaming games. Mainly because my internet connection is not that good. I hope they give you the option of downloading streamable games so that you have the option of putting them on your hard drive if your internet connection is not 100% reliable.


Here is MY problem.

"PSone runs on the PlayStation 2 through emulation rather than actual hardware. PlayStation 3 will offer the same compatibility for PS2 software and the format will continue forever,"....Ken Kurtargi.

This guy believed BC was an absolute HAVE TO in order to keep people locked into the brand during the transition from one console to the next. Now all of a sudden, we get no PS1 AND PS2 compatibility and only get PS3's in a limited way via streaming? Come on. I plan on getting a PS4, but I'm not into the whole "lets strip something out just so we can resell old games later" way of thinking.

What are you talking about? PS1 and PS2 emulation is expected. Also the only other way to get PS3 BC would be sticking 90% of a PS3 in the PS4.

Where did you read you'll be able to play PS1 and PS2 games on the PS4? And I don't think it's an issue of cost. Sony made the "official" statment back when they were removing BC, that is was about cost. But the ONLY reason the PS3 carried such a heafty price tag was due to the BD drive being so expensive. Imo, they removed BC because they had the foresight of HD remakes AND, lets not forget, the PS2 carried a VERY sweet profit margin. If the PS3 continued on as being a wonder machine, PS2 sales would have been cannibalized. Sony couldn't afford that at the time since the loss on PS3 hardware was so great.

They should stick a cell chip in the thing, and whatever marginal loss is a result of that, they should eat. Having a PS4 that could play PS1,PS2 AND PS3 games? It wouldn't do much for the casual gamer, but the core would rejoice. I'm getting one anyway, but it would make it that much sweeter.


PS1 and PS2 can be emulated very cheaply since they are 3 and 2 gens ago. Sony has no reason not to include them and there are no signs that they're being ditched.

No, Sony really did cut it because of the cost. The system was way too expensive and it was an unnecessary feature. The blu-ray drive may have cost a lot more but Sony couldn't ditch it. Also the consumers buying PS3s are not the market for the PS2. If the PS3 had BC, the PS2 would have lost hardly any sales. HD remakes are not geared towards owners of the PS2 versions so again that doesn't make sense. (Also you're assuming Sony who almost killed itself with the PS3 actually had this secret plan all along to make back a couple bucks)

They would need to add a CELL, RSX, and PS3 memory as well as modify the circuit, fan, and power to support it all while making the system bigger. If they only had one model then this could cost maybe $50. However if they wanted a non BC SKU too, it would cost A LOT more for Sony. Sure you and me would want that, but don't we also want the PS4 to sell?



as predicted. Hope my other predictions come true. I bought a shit load of crow, and need to get the oven warmed up.



JoeTheBro said:
prayformojo said:
JoeTheBro said:
prayformojo said:
A203D said:
I'm personally not that keen on the idea of streaming games. Mainly because my internet connection is not that good. I hope they give you the option of downloading streamable games so that you have the option of putting them on your hard drive if your internet connection is not 100% reliable.


Here is MY problem.

"PSone runs on the PlayStation 2 through emulation rather than actual hardware. PlayStation 3 will offer the same compatibility for PS2 software and the format will continue forever,"....Ken Kurtargi.

This guy believed BC was an absolute HAVE TO in order to keep people locked into the brand during the transition from one console to the next. Now all of a sudden, we get no PS1 AND PS2 compatibility and only get PS3's in a limited way via streaming? Come on. I plan on getting a PS4, but I'm not into the whole "lets strip something out just so we can resell old games later" way of thinking.

What are you talking about? PS1 and PS2 emulation is expected. Also the only other way to get PS3 BC would be sticking 90% of a PS3 in the PS4.

Where did you read you'll be able to play PS1 and PS2 games on the PS4? And I don't think it's an issue of cost. Sony made the "official" statment back when they were removing BC, that is was about cost. But the ONLY reason the PS3 carried such a heafty price tag was due to the BD drive being so expensive. Imo, they removed BC because they had the foresight of HD remakes AND, lets not forget, the PS2 carried a VERY sweet profit margin. If the PS3 continued on as being a wonder machine, PS2 sales would have been cannibalized. Sony couldn't afford that at the time since the loss on PS3 hardware was so great.

They should stick a cell chip in the thing, and whatever marginal loss is a result of that, they should eat. Having a PS4 that could play PS1,PS2 AND PS3 games? It wouldn't do much for the casual gamer, but the core would rejoice. I'm getting one anyway, but it would make it that much sweeter.


PS1 and PS2 can be emulated very cheaply since they are 3 and 2 gens ago. Sony has no reason not to include them and there are no signs that they're being ditched.

No, Sony really did cut it because of the cost. The system was way too expensive and it was an unnecessary feature. The blu-ray drive may have cost a lot more but Sony couldn't ditch it. Also the consumers buying PS3s are not the market for the PS2. If the PS3 had BC, the PS2 would have lost hardly any sales. HD remakes are not geared towards owners of the PS2 versions so again that doesn't make sense. (Also you're assuming Sony who almost killed itself with the PS3 actually had this secret plan all along to make back a couple bucks)

They would need to add a CELL, RSX, and PS3 memory as well as modify the circuit, fan, and power to support it all while making the system bigger. If they only had one model then this could cost maybe $50. However if they wanted a non BC SKU too, it would cost A LOT more for Sony. Sure you and me would want that, but don't we also want the PS4 to sell?

Of course I want it to sell, but I also think it would be an amazing selling point. They've been playing up their history lately, and what better way to segway into FULL BC? I just do not understand how the PS2 was $300.00 dollars, and had full BC it's entire life, and now it's just, impossible. The PS3 had it at launch, so why not the PS4? It's certainly something Sony fans like us have been begging for.