Eh, only in your opinion. Successes / failures shape the direction of the industry, and there's a finite amount of money to go around.

Saying it openly around fans of the products creates trouble, though.

Although I agree with all those points, they should not bring the sales below vita. What I been thinking is brand power, PS brand is still moderate but the PSP/PSV brand died and thus vita does terrible. DS brand was still strong in US, so the 3DS does moderate and then price cut makes it great. PS brand at launch of PS3 was very high, but the large price, lack of games, and 360 brand was keeping the sales from taking off thus leading to moderate sales. Now the Wii brand is dead and with all that you said combined makes it into terrible sales. So now I think the PS4 and nextbox should launch while sales of their predecessors are still strong, not when they die off.

Just my thoughts on brand power.

thought you were long gone lad. You going to jump into next gen? 

Vita did ok,

Just had a chance to check out this thread and wow, 360 doing surprisingly well albeit with an extra week. Wii U, damn Nintendo needs to get more games out for it quick.

Vita is basically dead, stick a fork in it. VGC Vita numbers for the month were terrible and yet it was still overtracked! 

I'm curious about 3ds numbers now. Hopefully we get some info about them.

who knows, lets see what these companies have to offer, so far next gen has had an pretty bad start.

Well done microsoft! i didnt think there was going to be a yoy increase in any month of 13, as for the wii u, the low sales had to be expected, from the begining the system seemed rushed, missing features, massive downloads needed just to get the thing running right, no premier system selling game, dont get me wrong im still 99% sure im going to get one when smash comes out, but these low numbers are not surprising during its launch window.

uh

5-week January, and first week was higher.

February sales will be the normal ones. More like 25k.

I asked this earlier, but people were posting so much and so fast that i think it went unnoticed :S

"So a recap; we have undertracked the 360 by 30k, the PS3 by 100k and overtracked the Wii and Wii U by 20k both?''

Does anyone know more about this so far?

You know what the most damning thing about those numbers is. If you can find a Vita. It is no longer being sold in a lot of places. It is usually at the back of the gaming section, and crammed into a teeny tiny little space. Whereas the Wii U is actually placed preferentially, and is allotted a great deal of shelf space. Sure the Vita worked itself into that position, but for the Wii U to barely be outperforming it with all of those advantages, and having just come off of its launch. Whereas the Vita has been a punching bag for over a year.

Well that says something about the console that goes beyond a lack of quality games, or a excessive price point, or even a lack of advertising. It says two things about the platform. The first being that Nintendo obviously did a better job of actually chasing off their core supporters then was previously expected. Nintendo shouldn't be exhausting its crop of early adopters this soon in the consoles life cycle. Unless they have effectively purged themselves of most of their most loyal players.

The second is obvious in that the hardware isn't at all compelling based upon a honest unbiased assessment. The console just doesn't seem to be swinging any impulse purchases, and that means that people cannot justify the purchase even if it is purely as a status symbol, or a over priced gift to earn affection. It just isn't at all good, and it appears to be that way for a couple important reasons. Before you even get to the price, games, or the advertising. Which isn't to say that those aren't problems.

I would also like to say that I can absolutely see the Wii U being the worst performing console for its launch window once you factor in inflation and market expansion. As for a straight up head to head against the Saturn and Virtual Boy. The Virtual Boy I can most definitely see that being the case, because retailers basically did everything to offload that hardware. Including eating just ungodly losses. While the Saturn most definitely qualify, because it didn't sell more then a hundred thousand units in its first four months on the market. Not that it even had a chance given it was a surprise launch, and it was only to be found at select retailers.