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Forums - Politics - North Korea's Third Nuclear Test Successful (CONFIRMED)

I wouldn't care if North Korea wasn't such a hostile nation with such poor leadership. Honestly, I don't understand why the country is absolutely hell bent on nuclear weapons.

The UN sanctions they have endured have essentially destroyed the life of its already impoverished civilians. A real leader would show more care for his people.

Pakistans acquisition of nuclear weapons wasn't nearly as controversial because they are a more stable nation. Not as stable as one would hope for somebody with nuclear weapons, but stable enough.



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justinian said:
I am not happy about NK having nukes but the reality is that there is something fundamentally wrong when countries with an arsenal of nukes condemn a nation for wanting them.

It is a policed world. Police can have weapons and show them, civilians are not allowed any (as is the case in civilized countries).

To be honest I rather live in the current scenario than one with every mad leader having nukes so I am not too bothered by this.

However one question do need to be asked. And one thing to ponder.

If Japan, Germany or S.Korea built nukes will there be such an outrage?

History has shown that today's friend is tomorrow's enemy. This friendship can be as old as a couple hundred years old but eventually things do and will fall apart, probably most likely with shrinking resources. Leaders are aware of this.
I believe this is why nukes or some super weapon will always be with us.






yeah, but you can't be a police office without special training as well as passing a psych evaluation.  

The problem with north korea is the country is unstable.  The leadership is all over the place and incredibly hostile to a variety of different nations.  You wouldn't be able to become a police officer if you had a history of threatening to kill your neighbors, would you?  

The controversy over north Korea is that it hasn't shown itself as a country capable of handling that kind of power.  The other countries you mentioned are considerably more stable, in fact, Germany has nuclear weapons from the US under the nato treaty, they have just never made any of their own.  



Would it be so bad if China took control over North Korea? In a nation of 1.3 billion, an additional 24 million people would not be too outrageous a number to handle. It would give the Chinese more coast, more land, and could open up further trade with South Korea. Although the Chinese are far from free, conditions would still be a large improvement for the North Korean people, and it would essentially take care of the Buffer Zone argument, as it would still put much distance between the other Chinese provinces and South Korea. It would also bring tensions down to remove the North Korean government and replace it with the more stable Chinese.

However the obvious faults with this idea such as the North Koreans not cooperating, the Chinese gaining too much influence, the US not allowing a take over to occur via war or diplomacy, and the fact that this plan would probably never work in any regard :P Still interesting to think about...



 

 

 

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NintendoPie said:
I hope they have nothing against Florida... 'cause I don't wanna die.


They don't even have a reliable missile that can hit Alaska yet. You're pretty safe regardless.

S.Korea and Japan on the other hand...



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BaldrSkies said:
NintendoPie said:
I hope they have nothing against Florida... 'cause I don't wanna die.


They don't even have a reliable missile that can hit Alaska yet. You're pretty safe regardless.

S.Korea and Japan on the other hand...

Poor S. Korea, it sucks having to be attached to the North.

And I'm guessing Japan has more of a threat than any other Asian country. Doesn't N. Korea hate the Japanese?



justinian said:
I am not happy about NK having nukes but the reality is that there is something fundamentally wrong when countries with an arsenal of nukes condemn a nation for wanting them.

It is a policed world. Police can have weapons and show them, civilians are not allowed any (as is the case in civilized countries).

To be honest I rather live in the current scenario than one with every mad leader having nukes so I am not too bothered by this.

However one question do need to be asked. And one thing to ponder.

If Japan, Germany or S.Korea built nukes will there be such an outrage?

History has shown that today's friend is tomorrow's enemy. This friendship can be as old as a couple hundred years old but eventually things do and will fall apart, probably most likely with shrinking resources. Leaders are aware of this.
I believe this is why nukes or some super weapon will always be with us.






The problem is that NK leadership has proven time and time again that they are very radical. We have little to fear of any of the current nuclear countries actually using them. With the NK leadership, I wouldn't put it past them.





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NintendoPie said:
BaldrSkies said:
NintendoPie said:
I hope they have nothing against Florida... 'cause I don't wanna die.


They don't even have a reliable missile that can hit Alaska yet. You're pretty safe regardless.

S.Korea and Japan on the other hand...

Poor S. Korea, it sucks having to be attached to the North.

And I'm guessing Japan has more of a threat than any other Asian country. Doesn't N. Korea hate the Japanese?


Yes they do. And if North Korea builds a nuclear arsenal you can count on Japan doing so as well. Given Japan's level of civilian enrichment and reprocessing programs, Japan could build functional nuclear weapons in a matter of months.

Japan is already moving towards a repeal of Article 9 with US support. Nobody in Asia will be happy with a remilitarized and nuclear armed Japan.



BaldrSkies said:
NintendoPie said:
BaldrSkies said:
NintendoPie said:
I hope they have nothing against Florida... 'cause I don't wanna die.


They don't even have a reliable missile that can hit Alaska yet. You're pretty safe regardless.

S.Korea and Japan on the other hand...

Poor S. Korea, it sucks having to be attached to the North.

And I'm guessing Japan has more of a threat than any other Asian country. Doesn't N. Korea hate the Japanese?


Yes they do. And if North Korea builds a nuclear arsenal you can count on Japan doing so as well. Given Japan's level of civilian enrichment and reprocessing programs, Japan could build functional nuclear weapons in a matter of months.

Japan is already moving towards a repeal of Article 9 with US support. Nobody in Asia will be happy with a remilitarized and nuclear armed Japan.

While i do think that Article 9 will go the way of the dodo (if only because it already has, basically), i really think certain elements of the Japanese polity would completely lose their shit if their country would try to make nuclear weapons. I mean, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were trying to build a 2020 Olympics bid around nuclear disarmament.



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