Dude, developers spend sometimes years working on games. Some AAA games nowadays need 100+ people working on it to finish and polish it on time. You just simple CAN'T port assets or code buy just doing "ctrl c" then "ctrl v" and magically make the game look better. Not games from the ground up, ports, IOS, Android or any game works that way. Not even if you port the game to a freaking super computer. 

Also, quote from wikipedia: "(Console) port" is a game that was originally made for a console (such as Wii or Xbox 360) before an identical version is created which can be played on a personal computer or any other console. This term has been widely used by the gaming community. The process of porting a game from a console to a PC is often regarded negatively due to the higher levels of performance that computers generally have been underutilized, partially due to console hardware being fixed throughout their run (with games being developed for console specs), while PCs become more powerful as hardware evolves, but also due to ported games sometimes being poorly optimized for PCs, or lazily ported.

lol...... I should have figured that you wouldn't know what I was even talking about, how about this, you get people from beyond3d to read this dumb and pointless conversation, then get your own face pushed in, and then we can call it a day?

you think i'm gonna listen to anything you say, you looked at the gpu die and have no idea what your looking at, your no tech head, just somebody biased and pretending to know whey they are talking about, so goodnight.

lol I saw the memory and the shader blocks right away, it wasn't until chipworks came out with more analysis that I knew where the controllers were, then you have a lot of spaces that people are still speculating without facts, the point is that I knew from the get go that there are too many unknown factors and I'm not willing to spend the time on trying to dicipher it. Also I always notice this with people, when they can't win a conversation, they just call me biased, nothing is more satisfying, and you are afraid to ask people from other sites to see how clueless you are, I love it.

lol your full of it, saw your OP about the gpu die, it read like somebody who has no idea what there talking about, everything that i posted here was what i was told from reliable posters from beyond3d that know what they are talking about, even razor dragon agreed and thought it was 160sp, like i  said go on beyond3d and own then, prove them wrong, i will give you sig control for 2 weeks if you put up a good argument, about ports being the reason wiiu is lacking and  its not power. you have an account already or your probably too  scared.

Ninjablade stands on the shoulders of posters at beyond3D and neogaf, assumes that they are some kind of all knowing tech gods, and parrots their arguments without actually understanding them.

sorry but beyond3d are pretty much tech gods, even developers post there, and as for understanding, its prett easy to understand infact hardly anybody mentions, the argument about being new hardware thats why the ports are inferior, not even DF, there is reason for everything, if a hardware is 2x more powerful its basically impossible for 7 out of 8 games to not run better, there was a poster who mentioned the new hardware theory he was owned, tomorrow DF will do a article with why the ports are inferior, and there main reason won't be a silly one like, its new hardware and developers need time, but keep on pretending you know better and i don't understand.

This thread is so full of fail.
People getting butthurt then handing out non-related comments to try and butthurt themselves, it's just laughable.

WiiU GPU is on par with ps3/360, there's nothing 'special' about it that'll make it magically more powerful, and after 10 years of working in the game development industry let me tell you this much, The console manufacturer doesn't have to tell you the detailed specs of the GPU for you to make the most of it, you do that yourself by optimizing the code and working around limitations in power you find - yes nintendo don't give out their latest SDK's to third parties and keep them for first party titles - but that doesn't mean the functions to use the GPU in the ways available in hardware aren't there - You dont need specs if you're rebuilding and testing your software on the hardware 300+ times a day, so seriously, stop with the wishful thinking and dreams.

Fact of the matter is developers are finishing up their ps3/360 titles and looking towards the new hardware, so working on games for a platform that means additional work to 'make it go', just adds expense - say hello to shovelware from 3rd parties (just like the wii!), keep your fingers crossed for the next year or so's multi-platform ps3/360 games making their way to the wiiu, because once devs have all switched to the newer systems that's it for them, the only multi-platform versions of the next consoles the wiiu will get are drastically rushed, cut down versions unless nintendo splashes the cash (which it hates to do for anything not 1st party).

And wit the way things are going, developers just aren't going to bother, because those 0.09m salves figures for new games on a new console are less than it cost to make the game they're selling.

I'm sure the nintendo faithful will disagree with me till the cows come home but it doesn't change reality - You'll see it for yourself over the next 2 years, i won't stand there at the end of it and say 'i told you so', i'll just feel sorry that you got screwed over.

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The amount of mistakes made on neogaf and beyond3d speak against them being "tech gods," as does the fact that so many of them disagree; they can't all be right, so they can't all know their stuff. And even developers can be wrong, uninformed, or incompetent.

Oh, and please, show me a console that was maxed out at launch. In every console for the last five gens at least that recieved long term support, graphics improved significantly. PS3? Compare Resistance Fall of Man to Killzone 3. 360? Halo 3 to Halo 4. Wii? Red Steel to Conduit 2.

Hello there.

"PS3? Compare Resistance Fall of Man to Killzone 3"

Why not Resistance Fall of Man to Resistance 3? O_.

Why not Red Steel 1 to Red Steel 2?

Last but not least, Halo 3 wasn't a launch title, it came out 2 years after the console did, was coded by a completely different studio on a completely different engine.