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ninjablade on 12 February 2013
fordy said:
ninjablade said:
fordy said:
ninjablade said:
TheLastStarFighter said:
ninjablade 2 minutes ago
TheLastStarFighter said:
I don't know what's more bizzare, an individual constantly making negative comments about a system they never intend to buy based on information they don't understand produced by "experts" who can't agree on what the information should be... or people trying to have an intellectual conversation with said individual.

what negative comments am i making exactly, were just having a civil discussion, it really no diffrent then talking about game sales or caring how much a comany profits, it all silly but, its just to kill time, if nintendo released there specs then we would'nt even be talking about this.

 

Oh, it's quite civil. I just find it strange how you make sooo many posts in WiiU threads.  You are always saying it's weak, doomed, or whatever.  You even have the "on par" stuff in your signature. It's like an obsession.  Like you are saving the WiiU fans from Satan.  And it's equally strange how people argue with you, when clearly your sole goal is to agitate them. You aren't going to listen to reason.

system is and weak and pretty much doomed at moment, you want me to suger coat it, i really don't how too, if things change, new infromation is  released on the specs and games start looking much better and sales take off i wll gladly eat crow.


So basically you admit to making a claim with no information?


wiiu is selling horrible at the moment, and 2 the system is weak, no matter what you put, for a  2012 console its extremely weak, we are debating if its more powerful then currentgen, systems that released 7 years ago, how is this system not weak.

You just stated before that they wont release the specs, so you decided to make a claim (ie. Wii being on par with current gen) without any information at all? Why don't you follow your own advice and wait until new information is released, rather than jump out on a limb?

you honestly think we don't have any infromation at all, we have 80% of the specs, at most it could a 1.5x current gen. 



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curl-6 on 12 February 2013
ninjablade said:
curl-6 said:
Turkish said:

The DC vs PS2 comparison doesn't even apply to WiiU vs PS360, as WiiU has slower ram, weaker cpu and a bit better gpu than 360 Xenos.

The Wii U also has more than twice as much RAM as the PS3/360, (which is the primary bottleneck in those systems) and it's GPU might still be more than "a bit better" than Xenos.


thats fine and all but how does that make it a DC, dreamcast destroyed N64/psx, is the wiiu destroying 360 and ps3, its not even out doing them at the moment.

That's not what he's saying, he's saying that the PS360 - Wii U gap isn't comparable DC - PS2. And it probably is; the dreamcast was better than the PS2 in some ways but not overall, which seem to be the case with PS360 vs Wii U.

And as for your comment on Wii U being doomed, hold your horses mate. It still has Mario Kart, Smash Bros, (non-remake) HD Zelda, Xenoblade sequel...



fordy on 12 February 2013
ninjablade said:

you honestly think we don't have any infromation at all, we have 80% of the specs, at most it could a 1.5x current gen. 

You have SPECULATIVE information, just like you have for the PS4. In that essence, I could say the WiiU will be more powerful than PS4 and, given the amount of actual information out there, my quote could be just ad valid as yours. 



ninjablade on 12 February 2013
fordy said:
ninjablade said:

you honestly think we don't have any infromation at all, we have 80% of the specs, at most it could a 1.5x current gen. 

You have SPECULATIVE information, just like you have for the PS4. In that essence, I could say the WiiU will be more powerful than PS4 and, given the amount of actual information out there, my quote could be just ad valid as yours. 


try to do your research my friend.



fordy on 12 February 2013
ninjablade said:
fordy said:
ninjablade said:

you honestly think we don't have any infromation at all, we have 80% of the specs, at most it could a 1.5x current gen. 

You have SPECULATIVE information, just like you have for the PS4. In that essence, I could say the WiiU will be more powerful than PS4 and, given the amount of actual information out there, my quote could be just ad valid as yours. 


try to do your research my friend.


I'm not the one making the outright claims. You are. The one who should be ding said research before spouting ridiculous statements is you. 

Tell me, what factors brought you to the somehow absolute conclusion that the WiiU is on par with current gen? Oh, because of the looks? Surely it's not just the looks. Nobody would be that stupid to base a claim just on looks.



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TheLastStarFighter on 12 February 2013

And people continue to throw eggs at the brick wall that is Ninjablade.



curl-6 on 12 February 2013

Debating with ninjablade is like hitting a punching bag; you know it's just gonna keep coming back, but it's still satisfying to lay into it. :)



ninjablade on 12 February 2013
fordy said:
ninjablade said:
fordy said:
ninjablade said:

you honestly think we don't have any infromation at all, we have 80% of the specs, at most it could a 1.5x current gen. 

You have SPECULATIVE information, just like you have for the PS4. In that essence, I could say the WiiU will be more powerful than PS4 and, given the amount of actual information out there, my quote could be just ad valid as yours. 


try to do your research my friend.


I'm not the one making the outright claims. You are. The one who should be ding said research before spouting ridiculous statements is you. 

Tell me, what factors brought you to the somehow absolute conclusion that the WiiU is on par with current gen? Oh, because of the looks? Surely it's not just the looks. Nobody would be that stupid to base a claim just on looks.

its on par from everything i read so far, it could be a bit better but its still current gen. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-wii-u-graphics-power-finally-revealed and many people are still debating that the gpu can be 50% weaker.



fordy on 12 February 2013
ninjablade said:
fordy said:
ninjablade said:
fordy said:
ninjablade said:

you honestly think we don't have any infromation at all, we have 80% of the specs, at most it could a 1.5x current gen. 

You have SPECULATIVE information, just like you have for the PS4. In that essence, I could say the WiiU will be more powerful than PS4 and, given the amount of actual information out there, my quote could be just ad valid as yours. 


try to do your research my friend.


I'm not the one making the outright claims. You are. The one who should be ding said research before spouting ridiculous statements is you. 

Tell me, what factors brought you to the somehow absolute conclusion that the WiiU is on par with current gen? Oh, because of the looks? Surely it's not just the looks. Nobody would be that stupid to base a claim just on looks.

its on par from everything i read so far, it could be a bit better but its still current gen. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-wii-u-graphics-power-finally-revealed and many people are still debating that the gpu can be 50% weaker.


Hey if it's on the internet, it MUST be true!

I want you to show me an OFFICIAL statement on the specs of the system from Nintendo. I will not accept heresay as evidence.



curl-6 on 12 February 2013
ninjablade said:
fordy said:
ninjablade said:
fordy said:
ninjablade said:

you honestly think we don't have any infromation at all, we have 80% of the specs, at most it could a 1.5x current gen. 

You have SPECULATIVE information, just like you have for the PS4. In that essence, I could say the WiiU will be more powerful than PS4 and, given the amount of actual information out there, my quote could be just ad valid as yours. 


try to do your research my friend.


I'm not the one making the outright claims. You are. The one who should be ding said research before spouting ridiculous statements is you. 

Tell me, what factors brought you to the somehow absolute conclusion that the WiiU is on par with current gen? Oh, because of the looks? Surely it's not just the looks. Nobody would be that stupid to base a claim just on looks.

its on par from everything i read so far, it could be a bit better but its still current gen. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-wii-u-graphics-power-finally-revealed and many people are still debating that the gpu can be 50% weaker.

50% less isn't a realistic possibility I'd say; if it was, it wouldn't being doing a superior Trine 2 (a GPU focussed game) when the studio has prior experience with 360 but not with Wii U. And it wouldn't be able to duplicate something like Assassin's Creed 3 while also running an unmirrored second screen. 360 ports would see more shader cutbacks. Even in their lazily ported state, the current ports don't demonstrate many GPU-related cutbacks, just CPU-related ones.