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Linkzmax said:
theprof00 said:
this is ridiculous. i can't believe im being criticized for not considering that a vet wasn't paying attention to his own lynch. What's worse is I'm sure this criticism has more accusation than critique.

Shortly after hat replaces in, you asked him to claim and he said :"Nope.I rather get lynched."
The very next post is votals. There were some votes, but the only one concerning hat prior to my vote was radish's unvote.

theprof00 said:
supermario128 said:
Honestly, there isn't much left to do then to decide on someone or no one. The only thing that will get things moving now is a flip of someone who everyone had an opinion on. Hatz would be idea, but apparently he REALLY IS the cop if Linkz has no contradictory evidence. Doctor should protect him tonight.

unvote

except hat's town flip will result in linkz' scum flip. Both have already agreed to that outcome..similarly, hat's scum flip will net us a scum.

Either way there is a scum  by lynching hat.

Well hat did with his crusade. I did no such thing, nor would I have said that my lynch/death should result in hat's lynch. I do understand the pitchforks and torches will be prepared for me if hat is town though.
im 

im not sure what you're pointing out in the first part. I was referring to his "when are flips" which occurred near when he was at l-1 previously but after an unvote or two, and definite attention movement to mdj.

yes yes. what i meant was that you understand you are in hot water



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if hat flips town or scum, doc do not protect linkz or myself.
either nightkill will help town.

You know im really surprised that i haven't been accused of trying to get two townies lynched.



Yoshiya said:

DT is lurking really hard which isn't like him. I know he has a potential reason to be lurking but considering he hasn't announced it to the thread and he said he was going to catch up after he got back from his trip, I don't like it one bit.

Radish and Noctis also need to come back to the thread as I haven't seen either of them around for a while.

This post coming  from you is really really funny.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5134811

care to answer now since your here?



theprof00 said:
if hat flips town or scum, doc do not protect linkz or myself.
either nightkill will help town.

You know im really surprised that i haven't been accused of trying to get two townies lynched.

1st bold

Why the sudden doubts? I thought you are already sure that he will flip scum?

2nd bold

I remember seeing one. I am going to look for it. 



NoCtiS_NoX said:
theprof00 said:
if hat flips town or scum, doc do not protect linkz or myself.
either nightkill will help town.

You know im really surprised that i haven't been accused of trying to get two townies lynched.

1st bold

Why the sudden doubts? I thought you are already sure that he will flip scum?

2nd bold

I remember seeing one. I am going to look for it. 

The doubts are nowhere near sudden, nor has my confidence ever been 100% (even if I said it was, though I'm sure I have not). I've said that one of the two of linkz and hat are scum, and that I'm much more confident that it's hat.

2. Thanks. I am most interested in seeing exactly who said it.



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theprof00 said:
If linkz confuses me, he is scummy (isn't one of linkz' tells whether or not spurge suspects him through the game?)
mario and dt rub me scummy, dt less so
mario is posting like he is scum
why is mario here at such strange hours
fos nacho for saying he's town on prof,linkz,ff

says dt is buddying
mdj does not give him the heebie jeebies. mario, dt, radish do.

-noc always lurks, no read.
-zero is all over the place. No read yet. MDJ not scum, possibly. Trucks is lurking, mario is suspicious.
-noc has been brave so far. Thinking townie.
-asks me if I have a role (implying town)
-asks mdj why buddying with prof
-after i claim a role, he calls me town, then takes it back saying im a master of lies. says linkz is a blank,
trucks is likely scum, as is nacho and mario

-votes radish on linkz' say so.
-goes afer zero a bit
-in response to my ask for suspects: zero is weird; trucks no read; questioning radish; linkz is null, mario is weird;
prof no real accusation; ff lurking; dt is active, asking good questions; noc has been active, no read;
something is off about nacho; yoshi has been active; mdj is active.
-prof and radish being illogical

-says my read is wrong and will lose me credibility (implying I'm town again). Radis and prof are scum.
-mdj not on scum list, but zero,mario,trucks is and nacho, radish 50/50
-has some suspicions about linkz
-votes prof

-argues with me mostly the rest of the game for him

votes on spurge
prof L6
Radish L5
Radish unvote (hatmoza replaces spurge)
Linkz L5
Mario L4
Nacho L3
MDJ L2
Prof unvote L3
MDJ unvote L4
Prof L3
Zero L2
Linkz unvote L3
yoshi L2
Nacho unvote L3

spurmoza votes
vote radish
vote linkz
vote prof
unvote on hat replacement
vote prof


Quoting this for relevance to incoming flip.



scum spurge version

If linkz confuses me, he is scummy (isn't one of linkz' tells whether or not spurge suspects him through the game?)
linkz would be town, and here he's trying to dissuade attention early on
mario and dt rub me scummy, dt less so
could be anything. Lightly accusing, but vague.
mario is posting like he is scum
mario potential town
why is mario here at such strange hours
again
fos nacho for saying he's town on prof,linkz,ff
could mean nacho is town, and someone on the list is scum. FF? Too vague to interpret.

says dt is buddying
possible dt town
mdj does not give him the heebie jeebies. mario, dt, radish do.
not enough content to read, though possible dt and mario town reinforcing.

-noc always lurks, no read.
possible noc scum. Scum tend to give scumbuddies leeway in participation, so theya cknowledge and move to someone else.
-zero is all over the place. No read yet. MDJ not scum, possibly. Trucks is lurking, mario is suspicious.
similarly with zero, though his original comment seemed more accusatory. MDJ is a question mark again. Trucks and mario possible town.
-noc has been brave so far. Thinking townie.
Possible scum noc. Moved from no read to "brave".
-asks me if I have a role (implying town)
-asks mdj why buddying with prof
mdj was not actually buddying with me, it was a poor choice of words that I used "buddying" I had meant "assuming I'm a townie". Reinforces town mdj.
-after i claim a role, he calls me town, then takes it back saying im a master of lies. says linkz is a blank,
trucks is likely scum, as is nacho and mario
May imply linkz is scum (remember the leeway for teammates?) Reinforces town trucks, nacho, and mario.

-votes radish on linkz' say so.
follows someone he considers a blank
-goes afer zero a bit
possible zero town
-in response to my ask for suspects: zero is weird; trucks no read; questioning radish; linkz is null, mario is weird;
prof no real accusation; ff lurking; dt is active, asking good questions; noc has been active, no read;
something is off about nacho; yoshi has been active; mdj is active.
zero town, trucks was just called scum, but now no read. Too vague to interpret. Radish town. Linkz scum. Mario town. Prof too vague to interpret. FF possible town. dt possible scum. noc possible scum. Nacho possible town, yoshi possible scum. mdj possible scum.

town:
zero, trucks, radish, mario, ff, nacho
scum:
linkz, dt, noc, yoshi, mdj

-prof and radish being illogical
prof and radish town

-says my read is wrong and will lose me credibility (implying I'm town again). Radis and prof are scum.
-mdj not on scum list, but zero,mario,trucks is and nacho, radish 50/50
-has some suspicions about linkz
Linkz possible town
-votes prof

-argues with me mostly the rest of the game for him

Final tally:
Town: Linkz, zero, trucks, radish, mario, ff, nacho
Scum: dt, noc, yoshi, mdj

votes on spurge
prof L6
Radish L5
Radish unvote (hatmoza replaces spurge)
Linkz L5
Mario L4
Nacho L3
MDJ L2
Prof unvote L3
MDJ unvote L4
Prof L3
Zero L2
Linkz unvote L3
yoshi L2
Nacho unvote L3

spurmoza votes
vote radish
vote linkz
vote prof
unvote on hat replacement
vote prof

Final tally votes: Nearly everyone at the first swell (the first near lynch) is everyone he has called suspicious, which would therefore be townies, with the exception of mdj.
Second swell, is zero and yoshi. one town, one scum possibly.

Conclusion, I also believe that yoshi is scum. Secondly whether or not you like this analysis, it is easy to see that spurge 'liked' almost all the lurkers. He says either no read, or good input on noc, yoshi, and dt. What's worse is that he says they're all active. Noc has been brave and active, yoshi has been active, dt has been active and asking good questions.



Linkzmax said:

MARCUSDJACKSON said:

Linkzmax said:
Ah so your lie was just a test. And no, you can't use your vote as the proof that you suspected FF before you voted him.

yes i can, but you don't have to like it.

Linkzmax said:
Here's some short reading for you guys, the first game marcus played in:(Where he was town) http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=132698
Strikingly different from this round.

spleeee!!! those were the good old days. and the only person i went after was profoo. and i had no evidence. and i've explain my approach to going after profoo in that game.

now compare that to my breif play in Mafia round 35 before i quit View Post

thread http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=136086&page=1 and it turns out i wasn't a cop in that game, but i acted the same way i'm acting in this game and i was town before beingmodkilled. follow the thread, and don't half ass research.

my first, and the one before this one, i only went after one person. my second and this one i voted randomly. i don't have much of a pattern yet.

No. "A" Cannot precede "A". This logic is just as bad as your push for spurge last round.

How bout you don't half ass research yourself or use a defense that is a complete falsity. Yes, you WERE originally the cop in that round:

hell i didn't know he changed the role. 

hatmoza(from round 35) said:
After reading that, ask yourself. Why did I make a fuss out of Linkz suggesting that MDJ initially having a cop role that was switched?

Your first post said you had too much pressure on you. Not once did you say it was a plan to get attention, in fact you dodged questions aimed at you. And you also counter-voted hat and Trucks before you abandoned the game. Stark contrast to this round in which you played poorly on purpse to get attention, and called just about everyone that voted or suspected you town.

nope srry hate to break it to you but it was for the same reason. just thought it would work better this time because of how the last game was played. yep i'm still complaining about it.





Town version:
Mario is the tipping point voter, trucks is the hammerer, yoshi and zero are the second swell voters, zero being from me pushing him to.
A good town spurge scumlist would be mario trucks yoshi.



theprof00 said:
Town version:
Mario is the tipping point voter, trucks is the hammerer, yoshi and zero are the second swell voters, zero being from me pushing him to.
A good town spurge scumlist would be mario trucks yoshi.

Unless there's a double-voter, hatmoza isn't hammered right now.



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