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theprof00 said:
mdj is not scum. look at his game last time when he was scum and then this game.
He is just paranoid and doesn't know what he's doing.

I have, there are plenty of similarities. And I also had the "pleasure" of reading his thoughts as the game progressed through the mafia thread.



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Linkzmax said:
So why'd you say you accuse me of not paying attention (just seeing how much attention you are paying) and said he was an earlier suspect, when he wasn't? (i have to list all my suspect by post? besides i did vote for him. i still think he's a weak suspect, which i've also said. are you sure you're paying attention?) And why FF instead of one of the lurkers that you have several times mentioned as a suspect? (hunch)





Ah so your lie was just a test. And no, you can't use your vote as the proof that you suspected FF before you voted him.



Here's some short reading for you guys, the first game marcus played in:(Where he was town) http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=132698
Strikingly different from this round.



Still reading (at page 15 now) but while Linkz is online I've gotta ask: Were you serious when you talked about getting a PM from Stefl as your reason for why hatmoza can't be scum?



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Oh and the game in which he was cop that he referred to: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=136086
Note that he couldn't handle the pressure of the role and abandoned the game, hat was given the role in a switch by the mod.
Again, strikingly different.

@Trucks:
I think you mean not the cop. Congratulations on being the first person (besides hat) to question me. No, I don't explicitly know hat is not a cop. I did assume that to have to be the case though.



nono zero. mdj is not our best lynch. we have a cop hat, from a spurge who backed down to my softcounter, and a counterclaiming linkz. one of these two are imperative to lynch.



Linkzmax said:
Oh and the game in which he was cop that he referred to: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=136086
Note that he couldn't handle the pressure of the role and abandoned the game, hat was given the role in a switch by the mod.
Again, strikingly different.

@Trucks:
I think you mean not the cop. Congratulations on being the first person (besides hat) to question me. No, I don't explicitly know hat is not a cop. I did assume that to have to be the case though.

It had to be the case because you believed spurge/hat to be scum or because of something else? (No need to go into details if the answer is something else)



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Okay I'm finally caught up. I'm still juggling with the possibilities in my head but here's where I stand right now.

hatmoza: Took spurge's place thinking he would get to be scum and would be able to kill Final-Fan to end his revenge then proclaimed to be disappointed at being town. Not many bought into this,  radish did , Linkz and prof continued to believe he was scum and that's when the cop claim pops up. As I mentionned in my reply to radish (post), we shouldn't lose track of the fact that hatmoza might only be trying to stay alive to fulfill his revenge and what I got from all the argumentation with prof and linkz is that hatmoza is desperate to stay alive (his bargaining his lynch against Linkz's lynch is merely a tool to make himself more convincing in his cop claim). My guess is that hatmoza has some kind of killing ability (probably as scum) and he's willing to do everything he can to make it to the night.

linkzmax: I had a good town vibe from him before I left, so when he countered hat I didn't have any trouble believing him. I have to admit the way he refused to detail exactly what made him go against hat's claim rubbed me the wrong way though.

prof: Strong town vibe out of him. He has been pressing hatmoza with questions and looking at the situation from many angles. I feel a genuine desire to figure what is going on from him.

Marcus: His if x flips town then we lynch y posts [here] and [here] gave me a really scummy vibe. Then more recently [this] and [this] made things worst, especially the first one where he says that he believes hatmoza and I'd be willing to vote for him to prove the doubters wrong... what townie would ever do that? "I believe you're the cop and I'll kill you to prove it" it makes no sense at all.

I'm running out of time and I have to make the next VGC UT thread so I guess my impressions on others will have to wait.



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Linkzmax said:
Here's some short reading for you guys, the first game marcus played in:(Where he was town) http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=132698
Strikingly different from this round.

round 32 versus round 52

i wonder which piece of meta i am going to consider most heavily?