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theprof00 said:
can't do links now hat im on phone.
things like him saying "just as we thought"
or exploding when i voted him
him attacking my credibility which is what he did last time as scum.
him trying to shift focus away from him
claiming that it will be hard for town to win without him yet refusing to claim and backing down when i encouraged him to claim cop.
referring to me as town yet voting me.
saying "[prof] you will never live this down". clear implication that im town.


Honestly, most of that seems like you and him taking this game way too personally. You are both bickering towns at each others throats. Simple as that -spurge being the crazy one couple with insistence on things that are not there. The quicker you can come to that conclusion, the quicker we can put an end to your conviction that I am scum.

What I'm only interested in that list is what was Crazy Spurge's post that made people assume he was a cop, and reactions to that.



I am the black sheep     "of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong."-Robert Anton Wilson

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spurgeonryan said:

Hard game or easy game town. You decide. once I am gone, the game will become much harder to win. I assure you. This is usually the case with prof as well, not sure what went up his ass this game, but he has got on my nerves more than even Hatmoza can do.


Here it goes. My point of interest from prof's case against spurge. The post that made everyone think Crazy Spurge was psuedo claiming cop. It's flattering that I even got a mention. What a strong presence I must have on him.

Anyway, from a logical point of view I can see how some can understand this as a role claim. But on a more rational level, this can mean anything (unless a later post further suggests he was pretending to be a cop). You have to remember Spurge 's crazy mindset that he believes he can do no wrong, or that he has a sixth sense for finding scum. I can't even begin to try an understand what he was trying to do there but one thing is certain. He was strongly upsetted by prof. People act and say stupid things when they are upset... which in turn made spurge ask for a month ban with his tail between his legs. But my main point is this: this is no reason to think he's a cop or scum.



I am the black sheep     "of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong."-Robert Anton Wilson

From the FIND search tool:

Marcus was the first to mention "role cop"
Zero was the first to mention "cop"
Prof was the one and only person to assume spurge was a cop after the above post. No one else seemed to elaborate on the cop possibility that only Prof sees. Which leads to my second point of interest: reactions to spurge's alleged cop claim.

Again, this just from toggling with the search tool. I could have missed something.



I am the black sheep     "of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong."-Robert Anton Wilson

no what makes me think he's scum is that he kept saying that all it took was a sinhle sentence and i would look like a fool. he never said that sentence when i told him i would kill him and delayed and delayed and said he would never say it now, even when i told him he could just say it and get me lynched. he quit instead.



zero129 said:
hatmoza said:
From the FIND search tool:

Marcus was the first to mention "role cop"
Zero was the first to mention "cop"
Prof was the one and only person to assume spurge was a cop after the above post. No one else seemed to elaborate on the cop possibility that only Prof sees. Which leads to my second point of interest: reactions to spurge's alleged cop claim.

Again, this just from toggling with the search tool. I could have missed something.

Are you sure i said cop? in what context did i mention it?

I'm 100% sure http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5121152 Every other mention of cop before this was in the form of "rolecop".

You were the very first person to mention "cop" in its vanilla form. It stood out immediately because the first half dozen mentions were "rolecop".

Easy now. I'm not accusing you of anything so don't go too crazy now. I know how you can get.



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theprof00 said:
no what makes me think he's scum is that he kept saying that all it took was a sinhle sentence and i would look like a fool. he never said that sentence when i told him i would kill him and delayed and delayed and said he would never say it now, even when i told him he could just say it and get me lynched. he quit instead.

I looked at this several times now and I still have no idea what you are trying to say.



I am the black sheep     "of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong."-Robert Anton Wilson

ugh i hate repeaying myself.
spurge said if he kept being pushed, he would revert to his typical pattern (which is roleclaiming) which he confirmed by saying "town needs me" and "one sentence is all i need to wave away your accusations".
i told him to claim.
he said no he would instead, wait til hammer.
i told him to claim or id kill him. he went silent. i said if you dont claim by the top of the hour, you're a dead man.
He then goaded me to kill him saying he wouldn't claim.
Then on top of it, said," just as we thought. you're an sk", which i might confirm, nobody else at least in this thread, had mentioned.
I said he was delaying and waiting for scumbuddies to tell him what to claim.
soon after he was done with the thread and would take his role to his grave.

that's what is scummy.



Now that I've had time to fill hat in and set him up with a fake claim, let's not not even worry about what he says.

Vote: spurmoza

And prof, I appreciate what you're doing, but I don't think they will believe you legitimately suspect me. If I'm not around tomorrow, make with the lynching of radish for me.



theprof00 said:
ugh i hate repeaying myself.
spurge said if he kept being pushed, he would revert to his typical pattern (which is roleclaiming) which he confirmed by saying "town needs me" and "one sentence is all i need to wave away your accusations".
i told him to claim.
he said no he would instead, wait til hammer.
i told him to claim or id kill him. he went silent. i said if you dont claim by the top of the hour, you're a dead man.
He then goaded me to kill him saying he wouldn't claim.
Then on top of it, said," just as we thought. you're an sk", which i might confirm, nobody else at least in this thread, had mentioned.
I said he was delaying and waiting for scumbuddies to tell him what to claim.
soon after he was done with the thread and would take his role to his grave.

that's what is scummy.

For comparison sake this was your original case from a few hours ago:

theprof00 said:
can't do links now hat im on phone.
things like him saying "just as we thought"
or exploding when i voted him
him attacking my credibility which is what he did last time as scum.
him trying to shift focus away from him
claiming that it will be hard for town to win without him yet refusing to claim and backing down when i encouraged him to claim cop.
referring to me as town yet voting me.
saying "[prof] you will never live this down". clear implication that im town.

My question is: how are you repeating yourself when most of your more recent case was not included in the the original post where I asked you to give me your case on Spurge? Why the additions when you could have included most of your argument in your original case?

It seems like you are building a case instead of already having a case.For example, you stressed the "one sentence thing twice recently yet you never mention it at all in you original post. Why is this a part of your case all of a sudden? That's more of a rhetorical question, and frankly it doesn't sit well with me. Again, it seems like an addition to build a case you never had.

What further raises questions about your first post is how general it is. "Spurge exploded when I voted him" What does that mean? That could mean anything. "He attacked your credibility"... So? How does that make him a suspect? And where do you mention any of this in your next post? How did most of your reasons from your first post change so drastically?

 

I don't like how inconsistent you are right now.



I am the black sheep     "of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong."-Robert Anton Wilson

Like I said. I couldn't care less if I'm lynched or not. However, I am claiming town.



I am the black sheep     "of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong."-Robert Anton Wilson