SO, among TOS, radish, sm128, Final-Fan, DT, yoshi, and MDJ, I personally am not suspicious of myself, leaving six. Considering the powers revealed so far 3 mafia is the most likely scenario.

I already believe DT is mafia. As such, I am less suspicious of TOS, for toDay at least. If DT flips scum we can consider the possibility that he was throwing suspicion on TOS just in case they didn't win toDay (but not intending to let that suspicion turn into a vote).

So, off the top of my head, a plausible scumteam in my mind would be DT, sm128, and, oh, say radish. Just because why not, and Linkz called him scum as I recall. I most want to lynch DT.

Everyone wants to lynch either FF or DT as "one" option. Honestly, both of them could be scum casting suspicion on each other.

If Yoshiya is 100% sure about Radish then maybe he is deputy or mason. I'm not sure how he could be 100% otherwise.

Masonry

So, in a 13 player game we have cop, watcher, tracker, doctor, 2 masons and only 3 mafia?

I am not convinced. Revised scumlist: DT, yoshiya, radish.

You think if I was mafia I would claim mason when I have no way to know there isn't an actual town masonry? Would be a really great way to throw the game don't you think?

Also, please explain to me why I would need to claim mason if I was mafia?

I think it is very unlikely that THAT much town power exists. It would be "safe" to claim mason when the flips indicate real masons are unlikely; but that does lead to the question of why you would go to bat for radish like that.

Surely you at least see where I'm coming from here?

I do see where you are coming from yes. Flips have shown that town is very powerful, especially since I know that me and Radish are masons on top of all of that. But like I said and as you mentioned yourself, there was no need for me to go and defend Radish like that, I was under barely any suspicion myself and his lynch is far from confirmed for toDay.

Having Masons in addition to Cop, Watcher, Tracker seems a bit much for sure but on the flip side pretending to be Masons as scum doesn't make much sense either.

Let's say I believe Yoshiya for a minute here (not saying I believe him 100%), that would mean my suspect list would get update to MDJ, Mario and DarkThanatos... that sounds like a plausible scum team to me.

If it wasn't for the fact that Yoshiya constantly has blinkers on and thinks I'm scum every single game- he would have just confirmed two scum. The milking time it took to catch up thing just makes me want to flip a table- especially considering you know me IRL and know the workload (and other assorted crap) I'm doing atm. You try reading 15 pages of dry game in two days when you were only active with the game for the first 7. Radish decided to draw a line and not bother reading it- and he had far less to read. This pointless slur comment either shows you are scum- or simply an ass sometimes. Not to mention- every other post? Well if you, you know, read. You'll see that one was putting myself in a bad light in my point against FF (not fitting with your milking it excuse) the other was directly responding to the people complaining about my sudden activity (woah oh no. A town player being active again- it's an outrage. Must be scum) answer me this - why would I as scum suddenly start posting again when it had worked pretty damn well so far. Assuming I'm scum- lurking has produced little/no attention to me, and scum have not failed in a nightkill or been lynched. Seemingly all power roles are likely dead, and there are no obvious leads for town. You know what a brilliant idea would be? Lets rock the boat and start posting! Yay! And when did I say as a general point that "because my feelings were good last game they must be good this time"? I used it with MDJ yes- but hold on a moment- if we go back to the whole reAding thing- it was because he had regularly said he didn't like the lack of suspects I had given out because last game I was town, I put out suspects and they were scum. He had already put FF down as probably scum, and I was agreeing with him and reinforcing it. my actual post was "I HAD A SCUM FEEL FROM THE START. IT HAS STAYED. LAST GAME THIS HAPPENED THEY WERE SCUM. IM GOING TO TRUST MY INSTINCTS." i even specifically said it wasnt the greatest reason. Use your freaking eyes. It was not a general post for the town community to persuade them of FF's scumness. It was a post of my own thoughts and aimed at MDJ ( You know - the guy I was quoting. Aka. The guy I was directly responding too) Tell me where FF's "good points" are. I beg you, surely it isn't a hard job. While you are doing it- perhaps you might take a moment to recognis that FF doesn't even mention me until I name him as scum, then he is "SURE of it" - hmm.. What insight can we gain from this? I believe you called it "doing a zero"? And was scummy? Now whilst you are doing this, also look at when people called me scum. And when I called them scum. You will see a distinct correlation between me being the first to comment and call them scum in that post, then a gap, then others calling me scum. My raising suspicion on people whosuspect me bit- incredibly wrong. Finally the last part of your stupidly blinkered post designed to persuade that last day win or win the "bullshit" award at the end of the game- My certainty of town losing? Was from the perspective of reading scums moves. Scum have played very well, there are lurkers and sheep a plenty and no real leads- why wouldn't they be confident of winning? Just in case you miss this again- It was written from the point of view of scum explaining their actions- one more time just to bridge the gap-- I said "we can still win this- I've seen town come back from worse" (this implies confidence in this not being the last day) Sarcastic because it was necessary to highlight the sheer idiocy of your post- Unpleasant but fair Thanatos out.

^ There was paragraphs in there when I wrote it o.O