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MARCUSDJACKSON on 25 February 2013

profoo. time to go over the past. what was your initial reason for claiming ryan was scum?



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theprof00 on 25 February 2013
Final-Fan said:
theprof00 said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
i'm just following through with what was agreed on. you don't have to agree with it, just like your dreams got our cop lynched.

By definition of the game, if linkz is scum, he still has scum-teammates that can be hunted. We do not need to lynch linkz when better options may be available.

Today we had 4 people defending me trucks, yoshiya, mario, ff. These are all people that placed votes on hatmoza. These are all people that were suspected by nacho and hatmoza, before votes on hat even occurred. These are all people who relied on linkz' counterclaim testimony and displayed immediately reluctance to lynch (because mafia do not like to appear on lynches lest they be linked to a mislynch). These are all people who have encouraged lynching linkz today. These are all people who are in the middle area of contributing. Not post-leaders, not lurkers (except maybe ff). These are all people who haven't questioned other suspects. These are all people who are going to turn on me. These are all people who encouraged me yesterday, used my lynch, and protected me today while condemning linkz and then saying that I'm next.

Look around you and stop tunneling.

1I don't recall defending you the day we lynched hatmoza.  Not saying I didn't but if you have evidence handly please do refute. 

2I didn't display immediate reluctance to lynch, I only backed off at the last second when Linkz started making me doubt him, and hatmoza's posts started sounding more compelling.  Although in your shoes I'd probably be even more suspicious of people backing off shortly before the lynch went through. 

3The claim I'm going to turn on you is pure fiction on your part, and although I make no promises I don't have any plans to go after you tomorrow based on Linkz's flip.  I certainly don't recall saying "you're next" toDay. 

1I didn't say when you defended me, and especially didn't say you did it yesterday.

2Well, at least you understand what I'm saying in regards to the voting.

3As far as who is next, if not myself, I'd like to see a scumlist if possible. Earlier, you only mentioned linkz.



theprof00 on 25 February 2013
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
profoo. time to go over the past. what was your initial reason for claiming ryan was scum?

To test his reaction.



Final-Fan on 25 February 2013
theprof00 said:
The other reason why the names thing is important, is because if mafia are not collecting names, then that confirms (to me at least, not withstanding that Reimu was a cop, and her touhou abilities don't match up at all) that names are meaningless.
That could mean that they would be very loose with providing name information....even ff didn't put up much of a fight, when he's typically one to do so.
I believe the first person to give his name was trucks.

I would consider ff's "why should I tell you about my name" and then quick turnaround to mean that he was only pretending to be suspicious.

I wouldn't say my turnaround was "quick", just sudden.  I've been resisting name disclosures for a long time now in the game.  But after my most recent post on the subject, you posted your list showing I was one of the last holdouts.  Since my objection was more about the collective revelation of names rather than my own particular one, it seemed pointless to be the only holdout so I gave it up. 



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theprof00 on 25 February 2013
Final-Fan said:
theprof00 said:
The other reason why the names thing is important, is because if mafia are not collecting names, then that confirms (to me at least, not withstanding that Reimu was a cop, and her touhou abilities don't match up at all) that names are meaningless.
That could mean that they would be very loose with providing name information....even ff didn't put up much of a fight, when he's typically one to do so.
I believe the first person to give his name was trucks.

I would consider ff's "why should I tell you about my name" and then quick turnaround to mean that he was only pretending to be suspicious.

I wouldn't say my turnaround was "quick", just sudden.  I've been resisting name disclosures for a long time now in the game.  But after my most recent post on the subject, you posted your list showing I was one of the last holdouts.  Since my objection was more about the collective revelation of names rather than my own particular one, it seemed pointless to be the only holdout so I gave it up. 

makes sense



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Final-Fan on 25 February 2013
theprof00 said:
Final-Fan said:
theprof00 said:

Today we had 4 people defending me trucks, yoshiya, mario, ff. These are all people that placed votes on hatmoza. These are all people that were suspected by nacho and hatmoza, before votes on hat even occurred. These are all people who relied on linkz' counterclaim testimony and displayed immediately reluctance to lynch (because mafia do not like to appear on lynches lest they be linked to a mislynch). These are all people who have encouraged lynching linkz today. These are all people who are in the middle area of contributing. Not post-leaders, not lurkers (except maybe ff). These are all people who haven't questioned other suspects. These are all people who are going to turn on me. These are all people who encouraged me yesterday, used my lynch, and protected me today while condemning linkz and then saying that I'm next.

1.  I don't recall defending you the day we lynched hatmoza.  Not saying I didn't but if you have evidence handly please do refute. 
2.  I didn't display immediate reluctance to lynch, I only backed off at the last second when Linkz started making me doubt him, and hatmoza's posts started sounding more compelling.  Although in your shoes I'd probably be even more suspicious of people backing off shortly before the lynch went through. 
3.  The claim I'm going to turn on you is pure fiction on your part, and although I make no promises I don't have any plans to go after you tomorrow based on Linkz's flip.  I certainly don't recall saying "you're next" toDay. 
1.  I didn't say when you defended me, and especially didn't say you did it yesterday.
2.  Well, at least you understand what I'm saying in regards to the voting.
3.  As far as who is next, if not myself, I'd like to see a scumlist if possible. Earlier, you only mentioned linkz.

1.  My bad about yesterDay ... but "these are all people who ... protected me today".
2.  k
3.  In response to Linkz 11 hours ago:  "Well, I don't consider anyone else an acceptable lynch today instead of you.  I suppose I suspect DT.  I'd like to suspect zero but he's giving off dumb town vibe right now to me.  I don't know what to make of TOS.  I will reevaluate the situation when we have two more flips (the lynch, hopefully you, and the mafia kill, unless it's foiled)."  I'm not sure it's productive to put out an exhaustive analysis of who I trust and distrust beside a few standouts, when we already have IMO such a clear best choice already. 



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Final-Fan on 25 February 2013

Although to be fair, I probably would defend your conduct yesterday, and fight to not lynch you instead of Linkz, but I haven't really seen any need for it. But you said I protected you and then denied saying I defended you.



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theprof00 on 25 February 2013
Final-Fan said:
Although to be fair, I probably would defend your conduct yesterday, and fight to not lynch you instead of Linkz, but I haven't really seen any need for it. But you said I protected you and then denied saying I defended you.

Apologies, I meant to say "didn't say you defended me yesterday, and specifically didn't say it was about hatmoza lynch".



theprof00 on 25 February 2013

Without a clear list of possible suspects, how can we expect to go about our day tomorrow? I'm currently one of the only people pushing for people to participate, and what happens if we lynch linkz and I'm killed?

FYI I still want to lynch linkz. He is definitely a contender. However, I also know that no scum team is composed of one man, so I'd like to try finding the team.



MARCUSDJACKSON on 25 February 2013
theprof00 said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
profoo. time to go over the past. what was your initial reason for claiming ryan was scum?

To test his reaction.

elaborate.



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