call me a you people one more gain and we gone have some problems. best recognize what it be like up in this peace befoe things be gett'n out of hand upin this pace. ya heard!

i agree 100%

seriously! more power, means less innovation with higher cost, and i'm not down for that. the 8th gen. would be over before i buy a console at the thought of consoles costing $400 or more.

Like I told Turkish, the GamePad shouldn't be that much by itself. All it is is a controller with a cheap camera and screen. It shouldn't cost more than $60 to make,but because of markup these days, it would probably be $100.

The repair cost alone for the Gamepad itself is 85$. If you were to buy it separetly then it cost over 100$. In Japan it was around 170$ for the gamepad alone (not the whole console).

MS and Sony probably aren't going to have a huge touch screen controller that costs half of the whole package. Take that into consideration. The Wii U may be $300 and not as powerful as some people want, but MS and Sony can sell $300-$400 machines without expensive to manufacture controllers. That's an extra $100-150 that can be spent on RAM, CPU, GPU, etc.

With an budget of over 100 Mil for GTA V and ~100 Mil for GTA IV I'm pretty sure THEIR dev. costs won't rise :P

We must have more power!! More more more! Even at the risk of destroying the industry! 

Kinda sounds like how the Roman Empire fell

What a ridiculous notion.  Of course with new consoles, there will come more power.  That's the point of new consoles.  Sony and MS aren't going to just release a PS3/360 with new casings, and some gimmick smacked on, and expect them to sell for the next 6 years.  The only time this has not been the case is with the launch of the Wii and the Wii U.  Nintendo was fotunate that the Wii mote enticed as many people as it did.  The same strategy doesn't seem to be working twice, though.  Still, even Nintendo handhelds hold this principle.  Are Nintendo handhelds going to die, now, because they have more power each gen? 

What we have here are Nintendo fans who are scared to death that the gap between the PS4/NeXbox and the Wii U is going to be so significant that Nintendo will lose most major 3rd party SW.  So, instead of just accepting it, they'd rather to either stay in denial ("PS4/NeXbox won't be that much of a leap over the Wii U") or just bash the new tech ("more powerful consoles will destroy the industry, for some reason").  As years go on, tech always gets cheaper to make, so these systems will bring profit to Sony and MS, not kill them.  And dev costs are not going to increase greatly, as these consoles are going to be closer to PCs, techwise, so most developers will know how to develop on them already.  The only thing that kills publishers/developers  is the lack of quality in their games and/or the lack of time/resource management within the company.

Yeah, that's mostly markup. What were you trying to get repaired on the gamepad?

You can create a really powerful (compared to PS3/360) PC for about £400. Considering the ability corporations have of optimising design and purchase in bulk, there is absolutely no reason why they cannot deliver on a fuck-ton of power. No reason at all. What they'll be wanting to do however is minimise costs. Quit the green hardware crap and give us consoles that run like toasters.

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