I put it up against huge games?  WWE 13?  The year old Arkham City? Kid Icarus Uprising?  The 5 year old Smash Bros Brawl? Mario Party 9?  These are hardly MW3 or Assassin's Creed 3 we're talking about...  What games do you think would make a good comparison?

And where is this idea that PSASBR had no advertising coming from?  It had an open beta.  There was an E3 demo.  It was at Evo.  There's a youtube commercial with 3.8 million views.  There were 3 in store demos in my local best buy (one on a PS3, one for the PS3D Display they have up, one on the Vita).  Two at Target (PS3/Vita), 2 at Gamestop (PS3 Vita).  These decisions are made on the national level so I'd assume the story was the same everywhere eles.  I saw the commercial with Kratos many times.  The game had tons of coverage on websites.  This wasn't some sort of super secret launch.  What game with a comparable marketing effort sold worse?

And, can you please explain to me how a price drop on a 3 month old game is a sign that a game is very well?  Did Sony say "oh gee we're selling a lot of these.  Let's lower the price so we could get 20 dollars less for each unit we sell."  How is Sony telling Superbot "we don't want you to make any more games with us" a sign that Sony is happy with the sales?

If you want to argue that the game is good, or it deserved better sales, then that's fine.  Arguing that it's successful is delusional. 

I never saw anything on TV, I only saw something if I looked for it.  And im not arguing its super succesful or anything, the point im trying to make is that it didn't do great, but it didn't flop.

I can personally affirm that there were commercials on TV (I live in the US btw).  Maybe you don't watch a lot of TV, or you don't watch the shows in the demos Sony is targetting, but in any event there were commercials.  Plus in the age of the internet, there are many other ways to get hype besides TV as I mentioned.

When the publisher breaks off ties with the developer, and the price of the game is slashed within a month, that's clear evidence of a flop.  On what criteria do you base your opinion of "not a flop"?

Lol I do watch alot of TV, must have just missed em.  And the cutting ties, they gave the game to Santa Montica, its not like they abandoned it.

Please give your post some context, you're quoting shipped numbers, why?  Are you attempting to use DOA5 combined shipped numbers vs PSASBR sold through?  Because that is a bad comparison, though if anything just makes PSASBR look better since DOA5 clearly isn't going to get many more shipments for a long while why PSASBR will like sell through DOA5s shipped numbers.

I've heard a number of people blame the sales of these games on Sony's marketing. It's no secret Sony could have better marketing but this is bullshit. PlayStation All Stars flopped because it is missing essential characters. Not just Crash, Spyro, Lara. I can name probably 25 more off the top of my head that should be in it. It doesn't have enough content either. There is no other reason why this game flopped at all. Sony got it a lot of attention.

Twisted Metal flopped because it was half assed. It has great gameplay and decent multiplayer. That's about all it has going for it. It just doesn't have enough characters. I actually enjoyed the campaign overall and I had fun with it but I'd obviously prefer to have at least maybe 7 characters to play as. Out of all the old twisted metal characters only three are available. The MP is fun but doesn't have have the value to last you more than a few weeks or a month at the most. 

Starhawk is a no brainer for everyone who has played the campaign. Fucking terrible. It's ironic that the director said before the release it wouldn't be a demo because it is one big demo. I gave this a shot too despite how painful it was to do. I made it several hours and maybe 5-6 missions into the game. Keep in mind I got this for free with Plus. Even free the campaign is no worth your time. Starhawk should have been a $20 MP only release on PSN. The MP is now available seperately but the damage is long done and can't be fixed after that horrible taste the campaign is. 

Maybe Sony did limit the potential of all these games during development but they sure did the best they can to sell these games with all of their major flaws. 

Yeah, but the fact that they cut out Superbot indicates they weren't happy with their work.  I can't predict the future, but I kind of feel like we're not going to see much DLC.  I feel like Santa Monica will just finish up whatever was already started and that'll be that.  Hopefully I'm wrong.  And hopefully Santa Monica will add in a 1v1 vs anyonne online mode.  Disapointing omission.