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irstupid said:
Love how its comparing essentially Windows computers to Apple macs, ipads, and iphones. Hell probably even Ipods because it sounds like its saying ANYTHING with IOS on it.

Better watch out Microsoft. Pretty soon for example all of the Mayo clinic will drop every computer it owns and just walk around with Ipads, ipods, iphones to do all their work.

Ignoring Mac's cause it is barely any of the total apple share that is counted in this graph.


http://www.google.ca/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=mayo+clinic+ipad&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&redir_esc=&ei=KDUVUbzYAYS8igLs04CoAQ

My favourite:

http://www.postbulletin.com/news/local/ipad-helps-save-man-s-life-at-mayo-clinic-s/article_a0b59bf3-1ec0-5f54-9240-fae5b46dd288.html

He grabbed from his backpack an iPad, which is now fairly standard equipment for Mayo physicians.

Within moments he was connected to the Mayo electronic medical record — another Mayo initiative has been to make the records quickly available to all providers through the Internet.

...

The doctors held the iPad's EKG record side-by-side with the strip that an ambulance crew printed, further confirming suspicions that he had a clot in his artery.

...

"If we were to say, go to the ER, the first test would have come back negative. He would have waited at least three hours," Daniel DeSimone said.



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I wonder if this graph includes all Windows Phone, Windows 8 tablet, etc devices? If the next Xbox does indeed run off of a Win 8 kernel maybe that means MS will be able to count those in the chart as well and have another leg-up on Apple!



nightsurge said:
I wonder if this graph includes all Windows Phone, Windows 8 tablet, etc devices? If the next Xbox does indeed run off of a Win 8 kernel maybe that means MS will be able to count those in the chart as well and have another leg-up on Apple!

Those are Pc sales only so doesnt include Windows 8 Sales neither Windows Phone Sales or Windows RT sales.

Just Pc, Laptops sales.



nightsurge said:
I wonder if this graph includes all Windows Phone, Windows 8 tablet, etc devices? If the next Xbox does indeed run off of a Win 8 kernel maybe that means MS will be able to count those in the chart as well and have another leg-up on Apple!

Windows Phone and tablet sales are merely rounding errors, so it has about as much effect on the graph as including Apple TV in the iOS sales (it does run iOS, but doesn't have a touchscreen or run any of the same apps).  The Xbox is selling reasonably well, but again it is not even close to the same league as the iPhone business.  You either don't realize how small the markets you mention are, or your mental image of Apple is stuck 5 years in the past.  Apple sold more iOS devices in the last 3 months than Xbox 360 has shipped its entire lifetime.



ebw said:
nightsurge said:
I wonder if this graph includes all Windows Phone, Windows 8 tablet, etc devices? If the next Xbox does indeed run off of a Win 8 kernel maybe that means MS will be able to count those in the chart as well and have another leg-up on Apple!

Windows Phone and tablet sales are merely rounding errors, so it has about as much effect on the graph as including Apple TV in the iOS sales (it does run iOS, but doesn't have a touchscreen or run any of the same apps).  The Xbox is selling reasonably well, but again it is not even close to the same league as the iPhone business.  You either don't realize how small the markets you mention are, or your mental image of Apple is stuck 5 years in the past.  Apple sold more iOS devices in the last 3 months than Xbox 360 has shipped its entire lifetime.

Dont compare Phones sales with Consoles...

Everybody needs a phone, console are for gamers, a much much smaller group of people, per example everybody with a 360 probably owns a Phone or Smartphone for that matter. And people replace Phones every year or other year, most people i know have the 360 since 2007 and 2008. Some RRoD but Microsoft fixed it for free.



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If it weren't for iPad, Apple wouldn't have a chance against Microsoft. It's always been that way



Xbox Series, PS5 and Switch (+ Many Retro Consoles)

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Argh_College said:
ebw said:
nightsurge said:
I wonder if this graph includes all Windows Phone, Windows 8 tablet, etc devices? If the next Xbox does indeed run off of a Win 8 kernel maybe that means MS will be able to count those in the chart as well and have another leg-up on Apple!

Windows Phone and tablet sales are merely rounding errors, so it has about as much effect on the graph as including Apple TV in the iOS sales (it does run iOS, but doesn't have a touchscreen or run any of the same apps).  The Xbox is selling reasonably well, but again it is not even close to the same league as the iPhone business.  You either don't realize how small the markets you mention are, or your mental image of Apple is stuck 5 years in the past.  Apple sold more iOS devices in the last 3 months than Xbox 360 has shipped its entire lifetime.

Dont compare Phones sales with Consoles...

Everybody needs a phone, console are for gamers, a much much smaller group of people, per example everybody with a 360 probably owns a Phone or Smartphone for that matter. And people replace Phones every year or other year, most people i know have the 360 since 2007 and 2008. Some RRoD but Microsoft fixed it for free.

Talking to the wrong guy, bud.  But I wouldn't be so quick to discount the numbers.  People replace their phones a bit more often than consoles, but certainly not every three months.



the2real4mafol said:
If it weren't for iPad, Apple wouldn't have a chance against Microsoft. It's always been that way


And if it weren't for Windows, Microsoft would just be another Adobe.

This argument has always bugged me. Yes, if we just disregard everybody's successes, they're all failures. What point are you trying to make?



"The worst part about these reviews is they are [subjective]--and their scores often depend on how drunk you got the media at a Street Fighter event."  — Mona Hamilton, Capcom Senior VP of Marketing
*Image indefinitely borrowed from BrainBoxLtd without his consent.

famousringo said:
the2real4mafol said:
If it weren't for iPad, Apple wouldn't have a chance against Microsoft. It's always been that way


And if it weren't for Windows, Microsoft would just be another Adobe.

This argument has always bugged me. Yes, if we just disregard everybody's successes, they're all failures. What point are you trying to make?

The thread is saying Apple is nearly as big as Microsoft, but this would of not been possible without iOS. Still impressive for a companies that makes the software and hardware itself and limits the rights to use such software to itself, when windows is used by dozen of companies worldwide. 



Xbox Series, PS5 and Switch (+ Many Retro Consoles)

'When the people are being beaten with a stick, they are not much happier if it is called the people's stick'- Mikhail Bakunin

Prediction: Switch 2 will outsell the PS5 by 2030

the2real4mafol said:
famousringo said:
the2real4mafol said:
If it weren't for iPad, Apple wouldn't have a chance against Microsoft. It's always been that way


And if it weren't for Windows, Microsoft would just be another Adobe.

This argument has always bugged me. Yes, if we just disregard everybody's successes, they're all failures. What point are you trying to make?

The thread is saying Apple is nearly as big as Microsoft, but this would of not been possible without iOS. Still impressive for a companies that makes the software and hardware itself and limits the rights to use such software to itself, when windows is used by dozen of companies worldwide. 

Still not seeing the point.  You could also say iOS would not have been possible without OS X, and OS X would not have been possible without NeXT.  Could you just say what you actually mean?  Are you just trying to express how amazed you are at the success of iOS?  Do you just enjoy repeating truisms?

I would say that Microsoft is one of the very few successes of the licensing model, which usually is not a path to world domination.  I can't think of a computer company that made significant money from selling their operating system separately from hardware (Android gets a lot of activations but it's a money loser for Google). Maybe Novell in the old days, and QNX carved out a modest niche before being acquired by RIM (now Blackberry).  On the other hand, RIM, Nokia, IBM, Sun, Apple, all made big money on hardware locked to proprietary software (in some cases they did license the OS but this did not generate any signficant profit), some of them reaching the top of their industry.