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Max King of the Wild said:
Yes, it does. Because the preposition is there and you understood the point. Sorry, but I don't need to write an essay to you for a grade therefore you don't get the extra effort of correcting my gramar.

Writing it the way you wrote it makes you sound stupid. That's really all I need to say on that.

EDIT: (after the post after mine was written) - I wasn't the one who wrote a reply only about the grammar comment. I just added a minor sidebar mention at the end of an on-topic post. I'm editing this into this post so that it doesn't derail the thread.



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Aielyn said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Yes, it does. Because the preposition is there and you understood the point. Sorry, but I don't need to write an essay to you for a grade therefore you don't get the extra effort of correcting my gramar.

Writing it the way you wrote it makes you sound stupid. That's really all I need to say on that.

You going off topic and trying to focus on my grammar instead makes you look silly. This is the internet and informality is expect and as long as you grasp the concept it should be good enough. Now get off your high horse



Aielyn is right, the problem is most business men either don't know what they're doing, or are under too much pressure from investors. The short sightedness of cutting wages/jobs just to make more money (despite the fact that hundreds of millions of dollars of profits are being made) have led to economic collapse. Businesses make money by people buying things, people can't buy things unless they have money, simple cause and effect. Businesses outsource jobs and cutting wages, people work low wages like Ryan here, they spend less, now retailers are getting hit hard (e.g. Best Buy). Malls are in poor shape, when I was working my last job coding mobile marketing apps, my bosses came back from a mall convention in the U.S. and they told us it was really bad, malls don't have marketing budgets anymore. That was about 2 years ago, I can only imagine it got worse. Though one conclusion I came to is that raising minimum wage won't work, all that does is shift the middle class people into the poor class. What needs to happen is minimum tiered wages. Full-time work needs to have a minimum wage so people can make a decent living even if it's stocking fruit a supermarket or working the night shift at Walmart. Assistant management and Management need their own tiers, etc. Leave poor minimum wage for part-timers who are in school and can use some extra cash for stuff. But give good wages to basic full-time positions. You'll see how fast the economy picks up and how employment rate goes up. Plus they have to stop brainwashing people to go into college/university. One of my mistakes was going to school, I could have found some full-time work, make the same wage I was making coding, saved the money I spent in school, worked the time I was in school, and have a down payment for a house by now.



All this would do is speed up inflation...




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most business men either don't know what they're doing, or are under too much pressure from investors. The short sightedness of cutting wages/jobs just to make more money (despite the fact that hundreds of millions of dollars of profits are being made)

Holy shit businesses make hundreds of millions of dollars in profits? why havent I opened up a local gyro/hot dog/taco place yet...

PS. My post is obvious sarcasim. You are severly overestimating businesses.



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Sounds like a bad idea to me. Not only will everything go up, but the value of my job and what i get paid becomes less. My wage will not go up, and I've had to do a lot to get to where I am. I feel sorry for those that have to live of minimum wage, but they made their choices. They have the same opportunity the rest of America has, if they want a larger wage they'll have to find a way to earn it just like everyone else.



supermario128 said:
All this would do is speed up inflation...

and reduce crime rate. A couple bux can be the difference between stealing a loaf of bread and buying one.



 

 

Mmmfishtacos said:
Sounds like a bad idea to me. Not only will everything go up, but the value of my job and what i get paid becomes less. My wage will not go up, and I've had to do a lot to get to where I am. I feel sorry for those that have to live of minimum wage, but they made their choices. They have the same opportunity the rest of America has, if they want a larger wage they'll have to find a way to earn it just like everyone else.

Yup, if I were still working at little caesars I would most likely still be getting paid close to 36k a year while working 60 hours a week... While the full timers would be making 21k a year at 40 hours a week. Put them at 60 and they would be making the same as me while I do everything they do plus a lot more



Max King of the Wild said:
most business men either don't know what they're doing, or are under too much pressure from investors. The short sightedness of cutting wages/jobs just to make more money (despite the fact that hundreds of millions of dollars of profits are being made)

Holy shit businesses make hundreds of millions of dollars in profits? why havent I opened up a local gyro/hot dog/taco place yet...

PS. My post is obvious sarcasim. You are severly overestimating businesses.

Not big ones.  Though I'm not sure what a company like Best Buy make at this time, since as I said, retailers are feeling the pressures of poor economies.  But I'll give you another example.  Rogers Communications up here in Canada, their net income is 1.56 billion.  Guess how many people they cut yearly?  This past march they let 300 people go.  I can assure you, they could have kept those 300 people and hired another 300 and it wouldn't have put a huge dent into their profits.  But since they're used to making 1.56 billion dollars annually investors are gonna freak out if they don't make that, or get it higher.  So what's the CEO supposed to do? Do what's best for the economy and keep people employed?  Or cut jobs since that's the fastest way to get profits up?  Sure ain't keeping people employed.  And then people wonder why economies are bad.

Edit: Just looked up Best Buy's net income, they're profiting 1.23 billion dollars, yet they're closing stores and making people unemployed.



Cobretti2 said:
supermario128 said:
All this would do is speed up inflation...

and reduce crime rate. A couple bux can be the difference between stealing a loaf of bread and buying one.



Reduce crime rate? How exactly? The people who can't afford bread need to find a job first and increased min wage won't help that out. On top of that the crime is mostly to inner city gangs which aren't interested in a real job