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Forums - Gaming - Wii U graphics power finally revealed - "we can now finally rule out any next-gen pretensions for the Wii U"

curl-6 on 07 February 2013
ninjablade said:
curl-6 said:
ninjablade said:

dude you own a pc but you love nintendo, your biased shows through the roof, it fine as long as your nice about it, some people start throwing insults caus they love there company so much. you were calling x nextgen that's enough for me to know your strongly biased. if you compare pics of x to witcher 3 you can clearly see a generation gap.

Says the guy who spends his entire time here going into Nintendo threads trying to put a negative spin on the Wii U hardware, to the point of putting incomplete an unconfirmed specs in his sig while conveniently omitting from it things like the fact that the 360 also loses RAM to its OS...


360 doesn't lose ram to the os.

Yes it does. Like Wii U, not all of the 360's RAM is available for games. 32MB is  taken up by the OS, leaving 480MB, not 512MB. So it has less than half as much memory is available for games as on Wii U.



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ninjablade on 07 February 2013
curl-6 said:
ninjablade said:
curl-6 said:
ninjablade said:

dude you own a pc but you love nintendo, your biased shows through the roof, it fine as long as your nice about it, some people start throwing insults caus they love there company so much. you were calling x nextgen that's enough for me to know your strongly biased. if you compare pics of x to witcher 3 you can clearly see a generation gap.

Says the guy who spends his entire time here going into Nintendo threads trying to put a negative spin on the Wii U hardware, to the point of putting incomplete an unconfirmed specs in his sig while conveniently omitting from it things like the fact that the 360 also loses RAM to its OS...


360 doesn't lose ram to the os.

Yes it does. Like Wii U, not all of the 360's RAM is available for games. 32MB is  taken up by the OS, leaving 480MB, not 512MB. So it has less than half as much memory is available for games as on Wii U.

its 16mb by the way, its not even worth mentioning



Hynad on 07 February 2013
ninjablade said:
curl-6 said:
ninjablade said:

dude you own a pc but you love nintendo, your biased shows through the roof, it fine as long as your nice about it, some people start throwing insults caus they love there company so much. you were calling x nextgen that's enough for me to know your strongly biased. if you compare pics of x to witcher 3 you can clearly see a generation gap.

Says the guy who spends his entire time here going into Nintendo threads trying to put a negative spin on the Wii U hardware, to the point of putting incomplete an unconfirmed specs in his sig while conveniently omitting from it things like the fact that the 360 also loses RAM to its OS...


360 doesn't lose ram to the os.


Of course not. The OS is floating free in some sort of gaz inside the 360's shell.



ninjablade on 07 February 2013
Hynad said:
ninjablade said:
curl-6 said:
ninjablade said:

dude you own a pc but you love nintendo, your biased shows through the roof, it fine as long as your nice about it, some people start throwing insults caus they love there company so much. you were calling x nextgen that's enough for me to know your strongly biased. if you compare pics of x to witcher 3 you can clearly see a generation gap.

Says the guy who spends his entire time here going into Nintendo threads trying to put a negative spin on the Wii U hardware, to the point of putting incomplete an unconfirmed specs in his sig while conveniently omitting from it things like the fact that the 360 also loses RAM to its OS...


360 doesn't lose ram to the os.


Of course not. The OS is floating free in some sort of gaz inside the 360's shell.


you actually want me to mention 16mb of ram, it's pointless and silly, i will put in my sig, like it make a differnce.



curl-6 on 07 February 2013
ninjablade said:
curl-6 said:

Yes it does. Like Wii U, not all of the 360's RAM is available for games. 32MB is  taken up by the OS, leaving 480MB, not 512MB. So it has less than half as much memory is available for games as on Wii U.

its 16mb by the way, its not even worth mentioning

So pretty much, if it doesn't fit your agenda, it's "not worth mentioning."



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Hynad on 07 February 2013
ninjablade said:
Hynad said:
ninjablade said:

360 doesn't lose ram to the os.


Of course not. The OS is floating free in some sort of gaz inside the 360's shell.


you actually want me to mention 16mb of ram, it's pointless and silly, i will put in my sig, like it make a differnce.


The 360's OS uses 32MB of the RAM and 3% of 2 CPU Cores. 

You really have no idea what you're talking about.



ninjablade on 07 February 2013
curl-6 said:
ninjablade said:
curl-6 said:

Yes it does. Like Wii U, not all of the 360's RAM is available for games. 32MB is  taken up by the OS, leaving 480MB, not 512MB. So it has less than half as much memory is available for games as on Wii U.

its 16mb by the way, its not even worth mentioning

So pretty much, if it doesn't fit your agenda, it's "not worth mentioning."


no its because, it doesn't make a differnce, 1gb is is 50% of wiiu memory , i think that's worth a mention if it was 64mb i would not mention it.



ninjablade on 07 February 2013
Hynad said:
ninjablade said:
Hynad said:
ninjablade said:

360 doesn't lose ram to the os.


Of course not. The OS is floating free in some sort of gaz inside the 360's shell.


you actually want me to mention 16mb of ram, it's pointless and silly, i will put in my sig, like it make a differnce.


The 360's OS uses 32MB of the RAM and 3% of 2 CPU Cores. 

You really have no idea what you're talking about.

its 16mb, it has access to 32mb, google can be your friend, how many times do i have to correct you. 



curl-6 on 07 February 2013
ninjablade said:
curl-6 said:
ninjablade said:
curl-6 said:

Yes it does. Like Wii U, not all of the 360's RAM is available for games. 32MB is  taken up by the OS, leaving 480MB, not 512MB. So it has less than half as much memory is available for games as on Wii U.

its 16mb by the way, its not even worth mentioning

So pretty much, if it doesn't fit your agenda, it's "not worth mentioning."


no its because, it doesn't make a differnce, 1gb is is 50% of wiiu memory , i think that's worth a mention if it was 64mb i would not mention it.

The point of specs is that they are "specific" is it not? If you mention the RAM used by the OS on one console, it makes sense to do it for the other.

Speaking of which, what about the other 7th gen HD console, the PS3? On launch its OS took  up 120MB, leaving just 392MB for games.

It's had its OS trimmed to 50MB since then, leaving 462MB for games. The 3DS also saw more RAM freed up post launch. It's entirely possible that the Wii U might see a similar trim. In fact, it's very likely in order to make porting easier since the PS4 and Nextbox will have more RAM.



curl-6 on 07 February 2013
Cobretti2 said:
BlueFalcon said:
curl-6 said:
50% better than PS360 is fine by me. It's about what I expected.

If the Wii U is 25% or 75% or 100% faster than PS360 consoles, what difference does it make? It won't be 5-10x more powerful which is what it needed to have next generation graphics. That means you'll be buying it for the games/gameplay not graphics. We can rule out that Wii U can match the graphics of PS4/720 automatically at this point already. Most people interested in the Wii U aren't buying it for graphics.

I would have loved for the next Legend of Zelda game to look like this, but it's not going to happen.

If you can live with Zelda on the Wii U looking like this, you can stop worrying about specs because it will AT LEAST look like this:


Agree about zelda would be nice if it looked like the first images.

 

However I disagree with you that it will look like at least the second image. The reason being Nintendo will switch to some form of cell shading half way through development.

Sadly, I fear you are right. A Zelda in the style shown at E3 2011 would be amazing, but knowing Nintendo they'll opt for some sickly Nickelodeon look instead, like Wind Waker and Skyward Sword.