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SxyxS said:
Immortal said:
I hate Sony and MS because I dislike what they bring to the industry (higher prices, less reliable hardware, excessive focus on graphics, etc.) and think that a Nintendo monopoly would be better for everyone.


monopoles are always bad for the consumer.

Standard Oil has proven this,microsoft also and nintendo treated 3rd parties like shit with their(almost) nes/snes monopole-forcing 3rd parties to produce the cartridges  by nintendo selling their games to higher prices than nintendo.

that's why square turned away from nintendo,that's why codemasters sued nintendo.

that's why nintendo games are a lot cheaper now than they were in the 80ies and 90ies though developing costs exploded,beceause there is no more nintendo monopol

Without monopol i can choose  between  candy style ugly graphics/ great gameplay,bad hardware,no dvd,bad internet(nintendo) or great graphics /great gameplay(not nintendo)+blu ray +great internet infrastructure,and 3rd parties can sell their games and earn money on other systems as nintendo fans are incredibly ignorant and only buy nintendo stuff(great rayman 3ds sold 10k,mario 3ds =5mio )

 

btw-i hope Wii U will survive.If Nintendo moves to other plattforms they may wipe away most 3rd publishers and the only games left on ps360 will be:shooters,candy style games and ea sports games.

Not in the video game industry. Until the DS, Nintendo had no significant competition in the handheld market, but they still produced cheap hardware and lots of appealing games. Fact of the matter is, with video games, Nintendo can't afford to abuse a monopoly by raising the price sky high or forcing consumers to do stuff because people can choose to leave gaming completely. There's always an incentive to make the most appealing stuff possible because you can always get more customers.

This is completely different from a market like oil, where people can't just stop using it because the price is too high and reducing the price is nearly useless because everyone already needs oil. In this case, competition is necessary. In the case of an entertainment industry, not so much.

Also, sure, Nintendo did some stuff in the NES/SNES days that wasn't ideal for third parties. But back then, considering that they were coming off the video game crash, third parties definitely needed to be kept on a leash. I'm sure Nintendo would adjust its policies if it had that much power today.



 

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Because all of the arrogant fans of A went to become fans of B and the fans of C didn't realize it.



Before the PS3 everyone was nice to me :(

Deyon said:

Nintendo bullied and forced their rules on 3rd party publishers back when it was the top dog in the industry.

Publishers still hold a grudge agianst Nintendo for what they did.

If that's true, then they need to stop whining.



Reasonings:

* Microsoft: They are the Borg, and threaten to take everything over.  They don't have a background in videogames, and really don't understand them.  RROD!

* Sony: They are arrogant.  They killed off Sega, complete with the brigade of smirking come lately fanboys who think the videogame industry started with what Sony did.  They are also like Microsoft in that they don't have a background in videogames.

* Nintendo: Kiddie game designers, who refuse to develop and promote mature stuff and release consoles that barely advance over what is now.

And that is the core of the arguments against each of the companies, minus some other elements I forgot.



I want to see the entire current industry fail because they do not understand why people buy games or how to run a business in a falling market. The way I see it the only way I can get old Nintendo back is via their destruction. I don't 'hate' them, but that is what I would like.

Re: your example, I would have liked Greece to default because that would have broken the cycle of bailouts that does nothing and forced action.



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richardhutnik said:

Reasonings:

* Microsoft: They are the Borg, and threaten to take everything over.  They don't have a background in videogames, and really don't understand them.  RROD!

* Sony: They are arrogant.  They killed off Sony, complete with the brigade of smirking come lately fanboys who think the videogame industry started with what Sony did.  They are also like Microsoft in that they don't have a background in videogames.

* Nintendo: Kiddie game designers, who refuse to develop and promote mature stuff and release consoles that barely advance over what is now.

And that is the core of the arguments against each of the companies, minus some other elements I forgot.

Once again, the thread isn't about justifying the hate, but questioning why it's hate at all. Microsoft tends to try to set up a monopoly. When it comes down to it, that's understandable - it's the most profitable situation to be in. When they use some bad business practices to try to enforce it, it bites them in the arse, so I'm not too worried. Sony may be arrogant, but pride comes before a fall, and we've seen that a few times - it resolves itself. Nintendo do tend towards less... serious topics in their games, but given the excess of seriousness in games recently, that's probably keeping a balance on the industry; and their relatively weak hardware is coupled with innovative hardware elements. Note that there are upsides for Sony and MS, too - it's just that they're a little less directly related to the downsides.

Part of the process of stripping the hatred is to recognise that they all have their strengths and their weaknesses, and that an industry that is more diverse works better for everyone.