LOL if you think MS doesn't already know the specs.
Atto Suggests...:
Book - Malazan Book of the Fallen series
Game - Metro Last Light
TV - Deadwood
Music - Forest Swords
LOL if you think MS doesn't already know the specs.
Atto Suggests...:
Book - Malazan Book of the Fallen series
Game - Metro Last Light
TV - Deadwood
Music - Forest Swords
People are making to much out of of Sony revealing their console first It will have no impact on sales of the respective systems.
| Dodece said: @Chark Actually I limited myself to the topic, and I only used deductive reasoning. My point being that bullshit rumors, and hyperbole aren't a substitute for facts and sound methodology. As for good conversation I hardly expect to find that in any thread I contribute to. Sometimes I am surprised, but that is seldom and fleeting. That said if you genuinely want a deep discussion on the strategy of announcements then you have to step up to the plate. In no court is vapid gossip or rhetoric a substitute for facts and a logical train of thought. As for the matter of equivalency that is straight up bullshit, and I think you know that. It is basically a bogus claim made by people who don't have any real response. I posted in the thread, and you responded, and I responded to you in kind. It wasn't incumbent on you to respond again, but you did just that, and you owe it to yourself to give me more then the canned. I know you are, but what am I crack. That is so twenty five years ago. It was immature then, and it is immature now. I know this may come as somewhat of a shock to you, but the thing I root for the most isn't a console brand, or a particular console. I am not a console warrior, and I don't blindly attack or defend a particular brand. What I root for is a good dialogue. If you are earnest in your desire that is good. If you just want to prattle then there are hundreds of users on these forums that will oblige you. While you do that I can go find another angle to the discussion that hasn't been explored, or as is often the case on these forums abused to death. |
The thing is your last post strayed off topic. This was a discussion on the position of release on these two consoles yet you go off on rumor and extrapolation. None of it relevant to what I wrote. I offered you a retort and you subjected me with a discrediting of the conversation itself. A conversation you originally partook in. You don't step up to the plate when addressed and come off as if you consider yourself above the other poster. If you spend the time to comment on hyperbole don't chastise others for doing the same.
As for leaving rumor at the wayside, that will just stifle debate. Instead of blinding your scope for reasoning by demonizing the word rumor, consider rumor synonymous with scenario. The rumor I used that the PS4 is the more powerful system is mearly one possible scenario. Playing that scenario out is what i extrapolated. If you want to disregard that, then you are in no position to have grandiose dreams of actual conversation. It is staring you in the face.
Before the PS3 everyone was nice to me :(

@Chark
No you presented a rumor as supporting evidence for a conjecture. If you want to proffer up a scenario. Then just say how about this scenario. Presenting the allusion to a rumor in your context you create a explicit meaning. That you are arguing for the validity of those rumors, and no discounting them doesn't stifle debate, because they aren't worthy of debate. You converted a hypothetical supposition into a supported fact, and in doing so widened the scope beyond what is reasonably testable. I am not going to waste time litigating a rumor if you consider it supporting evidence.
Now I gather you are getting off the rumor train, and want to discuss it as purely a hypothetical. In that you are positing that Sony may have a hardware or software advantage that they can take credit for in advance of their rivals. Now that is something that is hypothetically testable. Would that have a positive enough effect to justify announcing in February. I would have to say no. The hardware advantage will not exist if it does until the other player unveils. While consumers on the whole aren't out looking to reward the apparent software innovator if their product doesn't arrive to market much sooner.
The reduced media coverage, and the added cost of operating in two events. Would mean that the whole situation would have to be far less productive then had Sony just showed in tandem with Microsoft. Especially if your theory were to hold merit, because Sony would actually eclipse Microsoft. All of a day later may as well be the same instant, and nobody would accuse either side of copying the other in any event. They probably won't do that now seeing as the announcements are going to be less then four months apart. Others have said it. They don't have time to copy each other, and launch in the same year.
To me the advantage is tenuous or counter productive. Unless Sony can exploit the early unveiling with a equally early launch of their hardware. A interesting notion, but one I have a hard time seeing as plausible. If there is another real advantage to this you have to show it to me. To me the strangest thing is there still isn't the need for a separate event even if they want to get a jump on Microsoft. The Game Developers Conference is less then two months away, but the strangest thing is from what I can tell Sony isn't even going to be there.
Anyway it is midnight and I have to get some sleep.
@ Dodece
The fact you included that first paragraph indicates you are unwilling to admit your fault. Here you are actually entertaining the discussion yet you must attack me in doing the same. You dismiss my statements just to do exactly what I indicated. I'm sorry if my statements are too much for you to step down and swallow.
Before the PS3 everyone was nice to me :(

| ps3-sales! said: I think it's neutral. Not good or bad to go first. |
Honestly, I think your right because it will come down to other things like the games, price, exclusives, etc. rather than something trivial like who reveals a few minmal details of their machine first.


Quite simply, whatever hype Sony has got going on now will be completely overshadowed by MS's massive marketing budget.