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Jaywood2010 on 30 January 2013
platformmaster918 said:
JayWood2010 said:
Deyon said:

 

Dude, don't waste your energy. this thread is totally fake.

Go look it up each and every one of these studios yourself and tell me im wrong.  You sound ridiculous.  People on these forums know I wouldnt be falsifying information like this.  So either leave this thread or stop being childish and comment on something that is actually true

I'm not going to dispute the accuracy of this list, how many studios does Nintendo have though?

Nintendo has 18 1st party studios




       

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S.T.A.G.E. on 30 January 2013

Microsoft has had more studios than Sony for nearly two years now, they still aren't pumping out as many IP's.



Jaywood2010 on 30 January 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
JayWood2010 said:
bananaking21 said:
can somebody explain to me the difference between first party and second party?

 

First Party - Completely owned by the platform holder 

Second Party - Usually a third party studio who has been contracted by the platform holder to work on a license owned by the platform holder 

Third Party - A game developed by an outside company based on their own original intellectual property 

 

The IP doesn't have to be owned by the platform holder to be a second party, the IP can be owned by the third party but contractually made solely for one console manufacturer. If they just hired a third party it would still be first party (The last Metroid for instance in tandem with Retro). Other than that you're spot on. ;)


Thank you.  Did not know that before lol




       

Jaywood2010 on 30 January 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Microsoft has had more studios than Sony for nearly two years now, they still aren't pumping out as many IP's.


They haven't released games yet either.  Depending on what kind of game they are working on, games can take anywhere from 1-6 years to develop.  in some cases like the Last Guardian 20 bajilion and a half -_- 




       

adriane23 on 30 January 2013

So MS has a lot of Team ICO's on their hands?



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platformmaster918 on 30 January 2013
JayWood2010 said:
platformmaster918 said:
JayWood2010 said:
Deyon said:

 

Dude, don't waste your energy. this thread is totally fake.

Go look it up each and every one of these studios yourself and tell me im wrong.  You sound ridiculous.  People on these forums know I wouldnt be falsifying information like this.  So either leave this thread or stop being childish and comment on something that is actually true

I'm not going to dispute the accuracy of this list, how many studios does Nintendo have though?

Nintendo has 18 1st party studios

 

Cool.  Thanks for separating EAD.  I don't think its fair to count them as one group when people are naming the greatest devs ever.  I think EAD group 3 or Tokyo 2 are probably my favorites now.  I've never seen them separated like that before.




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WagnerPaiva on 30 January 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Microsoft has had more studios than Sony for nearly two years now, they still aren't pumping out as many IP's.


Maybe they are, there are dozens onf Kinect games on the market every month, and we real gamers not even notice them, but man, they sell. They sell a lot...

 

Probably these MS studios are busy making millions of dollars instead of making amazing games. In the end, that is what keeps a company alive...



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DanneSandin on 30 January 2013
platformmaster918 said:
DanneSandin said:
bananaking21 said:
DanneSandin said:
Anyways, this gen will be really interesting to watch! As far as I'm concerned: Nintendo's 1st party games >>>Sony>>>>>MS

But maybe that'll change now??


you havent played sony first party to judge

Oh, but I have :D some... many years ago ^^ But just by looking at sales tells me this, and the scores and stuff like that. And besides, I've never found GoW to be something that would entice me, and I haven't played a GT since the first installment of the series ^^ But I'm not much for racers... Only game that looks good to me is UC... And only game MS has that's any good is/was Fable. But c'mon, we all know Nintendo pwns everyone else when it comes to 1st party. That's just the way it is.

ok so you haven't tried Infamous, Uncharted, Heavy Rain, Resistance, God of War, Twisted Metal, Warhawk, Sly, Ratchet, Jak, or LBP because of the review scores?  Also yes sales wise I would say Nintendo does and they lead in the platformer genre (Sony really only has Ratchet now that Jak has been put on ice and Sly isn't up to Mario levels), but sales aren't everything and you have to remember that Sony changes franchises every gen so their franchises don't get nearly as much of a following built up.

So many parents played Mario and now buy every one of them for their kids.  A lot of reviewers also are effected by nostalgia when grading Nintendo games (not saying they're bad but maybe a few of those 10s would turn to 8.5s if they didn't constantly bring up "magic" and "childhood feelings resurfacing").  Nintendo has the perfect strategy in making only 1 or 2 games for each franchise each gen.  They are of the highest quality and avoid series fatigue due to this.  It aslo ensures high sales for each iteration (NSMBU will sell millions upon millions not only because of its quality but also because of the fact that it probably won't ever get a successor so if you want 2d Mario on U you buy it and it stays at a high price because you can't get it from a sequel).  With this strategy they make a lot more money too considering they can sell games like Maro Kart DS for near full price still).

However Sony pumps out quality games at a high rate and makes awesome new IPs as well as investing in new types of games every gen that the other 2 wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole.  Think you'd ever see Heavy Rain, Sly 4, or Journey on a MS system?  I don't think so.  My point is Nintendo is amazing and we need the pillar of their company and their franchises in this industry, but Sony is just as admirable for investing in NEW experiences and IPs even late in a generation and supporting their platforms longer than anyone.  You can't say one is better than the other on review scores and sales alone.

I didn't say I didn't admire Sony's effort of always giving us new IP's; I actually think that's a great thing they're doing, and more (perhaps most of all, Nintendo) should do it as well. And I have actually tried UC, GT, Twisted Metal and LBP. I'm not too interested in racing simulations and I prefer Super Mario over LBP, and Twisted Metal definitely isn't as good as it used to be. UC is something I really wanna play more of though!! And it's unfortunate you saying that Sly isn't as good as Mario (and implying that it's not as good as Jak either) since Thief's in Time has picked my interest =/

Now, Heavy Rain is too much of a movie to me; I'd much rather just watch an actual film instead, and GoW is just ridiculously gory and over the top for me to take seriously. I mean, come on - it's really silly to watch. They tried to make him too macho for my taste.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 30 January 2013
JayWood2010 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Microsoft has had more studios than Sony for nearly two years now, they still aren't pumping out as many IP's.


They haven't released games yet either.  Depending on what kind of game they are working on, games can take anywhere from 1-6 years to develop.  in some cases like the Last Guardian 20 bajilion and a half -_- 


Werent most of the new IP's for Kinect and Xbox Live though??



enditall727 on 30 January 2013
adriane23 said:
So MS has a lot of Team ICO's on their hands?


no, Team Ico is a quality studio with a specific uniqueness to their games

 

so PS3 fans are not just sitting around waiting for any ol game, they/we are waiting for something special/different/rare etc

 

those "different" type of games are the games that this industry needs

 

even games like Dust: an Elysian Tail(i mentioned earlier), Journey, Flower, The Unfinished Swan, Child Of Eden, Puppeteer, Rain, are all games experiences that this industry needs

 

 

these MS studios are up in the air right now