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S.T.A.G.E. on 30 January 2013
Gribble said:
Yes, but look at the credentials of those First party studios for Sony. Not to mention many of them have two departments now.


This. Sony Santamonica alone has been handling three to four games.



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DanneSandin on 30 January 2013
platformmaster918 said:
DanneSandin said:
platformmaster918 said:
DanneSandin said:
platformmaster918 said:
DanneSandin said:
 

Yeah,I've seen a few of the boss fights in GoW, and they DO look mighty impressive! But, I mean, if I just wanted the scale of things I might just as well get Shadow of the Colossus and skip all the hack'n'slash gore and get straight to the good parts ^^ When I get my hands on a PS3 I'll ask my friends if they have HR, then I'll give it a go - but I'm not buying the game =)

I've never played any of SOnys platformers (except for LBP) so I'd love to get some tip on which ones are good!

What kind of games are Infamous and Resistance?

Resistance is an FPS.  I would only recommend 3 although people also seem to enjoy 1.  It's nothing special in MP but SP in 3 is fantastic with upgrading weapon (as in you use them more and they level up from 1-3 and get different powers as a result).  

I've played them both and I can tell you that GoW's combat is VERY different than SotC's.  They're really not comparable and the combat against the lesser enemies is fun too just the boss fights are the climactic moments.  

Infamous is a superhero game.  It's a third person, open world, platformer where you use electricity powers to fight gangs and help a plague infested city that has been quarentined.  You get new powers thoughout the game and gain xp from main and side missions (along with stylish kills) to upgrade the powers.  As far as platformers go I would recommend picking up the Ratchet, Jak, and/or Sly collections because they're cheap as hell (so is GoW saga for FIVE games) and give you a good sense of the PS3 games for Ratchet and Sly.  

Ratchet and Clank is my favorite series of all time and ACiT is my favorite game this gen.  3 is my favorite game of all time so if you have to choose one franchise to invest I'm telling you that one every time, but DO NOT start out with All4One or Full Frontal Assult as I'm appauled they even made those as a fan of the franchise as its now looking milked and they could've spent that time working on a PS4 one in the same vein as ACiT and all the other good ones but oh well.

I still think I' gonna skip GoW ^^ And I've never been a FPS guy, so I guess Resistance is a skip as well :P

But InFamous does sound quite promising. Now that you describe it a bit I know I've seen footage of it... And I can actually differ R&C from Jak and Sly; didn't you have R&C as a avvy quite recently? So getting either of those collections would be a good starting point for PS3 platformers?

most definitely.  Ratchet has been my favorite franchise ever since I played Going Commando and Jak is pretty awesome as well.  Don't judge Ratchet on the first game as it's easily my least favorite until All4one came along.  A lot of the series staple aren't there yet (upgrading weapons, health, arena battles, and just the quality of the platforming).  I actually started on 2 and it still holds up incredibly.  The Jak games are all really different as Jak 1 is very light on combat and much more lighthearted.  Jak 2 is kind of gloomy (still has comedy relief) and focuses a lot more on gunplay (no guns in the first) and Jak 3 is my favorite as it adds new powers and evironments along with mini games.

Very interesting indeed! Sounds like I'm gonna get me UC, R&C and Jak later on! Maybe even Sly... It's just a matter of finding the right games, so I don't play the crappy ones :P Just like how I avoided Super Mario Sunshine ^^

things is, other than Uncharted those are all dirt cheap on ebay nowadays and you get 3 games each for the collections so there's really very little risk

http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Sly-Collection-Sony-Playstation-3-2010-/150983802843?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item232755ffdb

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ratchet-Clank-Collection-ps3-/111006892835?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item19d886c323

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Jak-and-Daxter-Collection-Sony-Playstation-3-2012-NTSC-/180947904380?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item2a2155e77c

Sounds interesting! I'll have to check it out!!



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ps3-sales! on 30 January 2013

Less is more in this situation. Sony's first party studios are MUCH more talented than Microsoft's studios and create much better games.



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SunofKratos on 30 January 2013

Wow intresting, didnt know that but what in fucking hell did they do the last years? Have they only released XBL games?



enditall727 on 30 January 2013
platformmaster918 said:
DanneSandin said:
platformmaster918 said:
DanneSandin said:
 

Yeah,I've seen a few of the boss fights in GoW, and they DO look mighty impressive! But, I mean, if I just wanted the scale of things I might just as well get Shadow of the Colossus and skip all the hack'n'slash gore and get straight to the good parts ^^ When I get my hands on a PS3 I'll ask my friends if they have HR, then I'll give it a go - but I'm not buying the game =)

I've never played any of SOnys platformers (except for LBP) so I'd love to get some tip on which ones are good!

What kind of games are Infamous and Resistance?

Resistance is an FPS.  I would only recommend 3 although people also seem to enjoy 1.  It's nothing special in MP but SP in 3 is fantastic with upgrading weapon (as in you use them more and they level up from 1-3 and get different powers as a result).  

I've played them both and I can tell you that GoW's combat is VERY different than SotC's.  They're really not comparable and the combat against the lesser enemies is fun too just the boss fights are the climactic moments.  

Infamous is a superhero game.  It's a third person, open world, platformer where you use electricity powers to fight gangs and help a plague infested city that has been quarentined.  You get new powers thoughout the game and gain xp from main and side missions (along with stylish kills) to upgrade the powers.  As far as platformers go I would recommend picking up the Ratchet, Jak, and/or Sly collections because they're cheap as hell (so is GoW saga for FIVE games) and give you a good sense of the PS3 games for Ratchet and Sly.  

Ratchet and Clank is my favorite series of all time and ACiT is my favorite game this gen.  3 is my favorite game of all time so if you have to choose one franchise to invest I'm telling you that one every time, but DO NOT start out with All4One or Full Frontal Assult as I'm appauled they even made those as a fan of the franchise as its now looking milked and they could've spent that time working on a PS4 one in the same vein as ACiT and all the other good ones but oh well.

I still think I' gonna skip GoW ^^ And I've never been a FPS guy, so I guess Resistance is a skip as well :P

But InFamous does sound quite promising. Now that you describe it a bit I know I've seen footage of it... And I can actually differ R&C from Jak and Sly; didn't you have R&C as a avvy quite recently? So getting either of those collections would be a good starting point for PS3 platformers?

most definitely.  Ratchet has been my favorite franchise ever since I played Going Commando and Jak is pretty awesome as well.  Don't judge Ratchet on the first game as it's easily my least favorite until All4one came along.  A lot of the series staple aren't there yet (upgrading weapons, health, arena battles, and just the quality of the platforming).  I actually started on 2 and it still holds up incredibly.  The Jak games are all really different as Jak 1 is very light on combat and much more lighthearted.  Jak 2 is kind of gloomy (still has comedy relief) and focuses a lot more on gunplay (no guns in the first) and Jak 3 is my favorite as it adds new powers and evironments along with mini games.


that's funny because I HATED Ratchet and Clank Going Commando. The 1st Ratchet & Clank is still my favorite with Ratchet & Clank Up Your Arsenal coming in 2nd place.

 

to each their own i guess



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NobleTeam360 on 30 January 2013
DanneSandin said:
platformmaster918 said:
DanneSandin said:
platformmaster918 said:
DanneSandin said:
platformmaster918 said:
DanneSandin said:
 

Yeah,I've seen a few of the boss fights in GoW, and they DO look mighty impressive! But, I mean, if I just wanted the scale of things I might just as well get Shadow of the Colossus and skip all the hack'n'slash gore and get straight to the good parts ^^ When I get my hands on a PS3 I'll ask my friends if they have HR, then I'll give it a go - but I'm not buying the game =)

I've never played any of SOnys platformers (except for LBP) so I'd love to get some tip on which ones are good!

What kind of games are Infamous and Resistance?

Resistance is an FPS.  I would only recommend 3 although people also seem to enjoy 1.  It's nothing special in MP but SP in 3 is fantastic with upgrading weapon (as in you use them more and they level up from 1-3 and get different powers as a result).  

I've played them both and I can tell you that GoW's combat is VERY different than SotC's.  They're really not comparable and the combat against the lesser enemies is fun too just the boss fights are the climactic moments.  

Infamous is a superhero game.  It's a third person, open world, platformer where you use electricity powers to fight gangs and help a plague infested city that has been quarentined.  You get new powers thoughout the game and gain xp from main and side missions (along with stylish kills) to upgrade the powers.  As far as platformers go I would recommend picking up the Ratchet, Jak, and/or Sly collections because they're cheap as hell (so is GoW saga for FIVE games) and give you a good sense of the PS3 games for Ratchet and Sly.  

Ratchet and Clank is my favorite series of all time and ACiT is my favorite game this gen.  3 is my favorite game of all time so if you have to choose one franchise to invest I'm telling you that one every time, but DO NOT start out with All4One or Full Frontal Assult as I'm appauled they even made those as a fan of the franchise as its now looking milked and they could've spent that time working on a PS4 one in the same vein as ACiT and all the other good ones but oh well.

I still think I' gonna skip GoW ^^ And I've never been a FPS guy, so I guess Resistance is a skip as well :P

But InFamous does sound quite promising. Now that you describe it a bit I know I've seen footage of it... And I can actually differ R&C from Jak and Sly; didn't you have R&C as a avvy quite recently? So getting either of those collections would be a good starting point for PS3 platformers?

most definitely.  Ratchet has been my favorite franchise ever since I played Going Commando and Jak is pretty awesome as well.  Don't judge Ratchet on the first game as it's easily my least favorite until All4one came along.  A lot of the series staple aren't there yet (upgrading weapons, health, arena battles, and just the quality of the platforming).  I actually started on 2 and it still holds up incredibly.  The Jak games are all really different as Jak 1 is very light on combat and much more lighthearted.  Jak 2 is kind of gloomy (still has comedy relief) and focuses a lot more on gunplay (no guns in the first) and Jak 3 is my favorite as it adds new powers and evironments along with mini games.

Very interesting indeed! Sounds like I'm gonna get me UC, R&C and Jak later on! Maybe even Sly... It's just a matter of finding the right games, so I don't play the crappy ones :P Just like how I avoided Super Mario Sunshine ^^

things is, other than Uncharted those are all dirt cheap on ebay nowadays and you get 3 games each for the collections so there's really very little risk

http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Sly-Collection-Sony-Playstation-3-2010-/150983802843?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item232755ffdb

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ratchet-Clank-Collection-ps3-/111006892835?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item19d886c323

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Jak-and-Daxter-Collection-Sony-Playstation-3-2012-NTSC-/180947904380?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item2a2155e77c

Sounds interesting! I'll have to check it out!!


actually all of the uncharted games are very cheap as well. 



Jaywood2010 on 30 January 2013
ps3-sales! said:
Less is more in this situation. Sony's first party studios are MUCH more talented than Microsoft's studios and create much better games.


This Type of comment will create a lot of flaming so edit it if you will.  Ill even edit mine out if you do.  And since we know aboslutely nothing about these studios we really dont know how talented they are do we.  I know microsoft did a great job at bringing 343i together and they certainly have the money to help develope and bring in talented developers.  They are also listed as one of the best comanies to work for in the world so Id say to hold off on that comment.

This generation yes, but with these developers we really dont know 




       

DanneSandin on 30 January 2013
NobleTeam360 said:
DanneSandin said:

Sounds interesting! I'll have to check it out!!


actually all of the uncharted games are very cheap as well. 

Those I know I'm getting, so no need to sell them in even further ;D but you're welcome to visit my PS3 recommendation thread!



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Jaywood2010 on 30 January 2013
SunofKratos said:
Wow intresting, didnt know that but what in fucking hell did they do the last years? Have they only released XBL games?


Since this is a common question in the thread ill post it in the OP.  A lot of these studios are studios they have built recently like they did 343i.  We dont know what most of them are working on at the moment




       

Kresnik on 30 January 2013
JayWood2010 said:
VGKing said:
LOL. There is a clear hidden agenda with this thread.
Most of these studios MS has are new and aren't even making games.


No hidden agenda.  It is very obvious that these are studios that have recently been built and are currently working on new games.  Not really sure of your point and why you say it is a hidden agenda.  All i did was state facts.  After that state your opinions but do not come inhere and say i have some kind of hidden agenda.  


But if you're really doing this in the interest of stating facts, why aren't you at least making changes based on some of the suggestions in here?  Wikipedia shouldn't be the end-all of your argument.

Sony Online Entertainment is a Sony-owned studio.  You can read all about them here if you don't believe me.

You also forgot xDev, the external development studio based in Europe.  If you're counting SCE Foster City for Sony and "Redmond Publishing" for Microsoft, I see no reason why they shouldn't be counted.

You're also missing Team Ico & Project Siren.  They're housed within Japan Studio, but they're very much their own teams.  If you count "Nintendo EAD" as one studio, then I can understand why you'd want to leave those two out.  But if you count Nintendo EAD as all the separate teams that they're divided up into, then you should really count Team Ico & Project Siren as separate as well.

Sorry.  I know it's not a massive deal, and I don't mind you bringing up this topic, it's produced some interesting discussion.  But there have been some points brought up not only by myself but other people regarding Sony's studios that you seem to be continually missing, and I think it's about time you updated the OP/Title.   It's not going to make any difference (Microsoft will still have more), but I just don't see why you'd want to base your argument off something which is incorrect.



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