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MB1025 on 29 January 2013
bertlsenix said:
J_Allard said:
It's a great service for customers but lol @ comparing it to XBL. They are two different services that offer two different things.


Yeah its wrong to compare them cause PSN+ is in every way superior and customer friendly.
And of course they offer different thngs...PSN+ is offering a lot of value in terms of free stuff for the customer and better quality for services both share.


No XBL is the entire experiecne from online gaming, apps, and so on. PS+ is a subscription based service that has nothing to do with online gaming and apps.



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Gribble on 29 January 2013
pokoko said:
Gribble said:
I think the case is just too compelling to argue against PS+. Even IF you call it a rental system (which in essence is true) that's less that £1 per game. Then there's the discounts, auto updates and online saves. This is an 'everyman's' article for me.

The discounts, auto updates, and online saves are every bit as important to me as the games, perhaps even moreso.  I LOVE SO MUCH turning on my PS3 and seeing that EVERYTHING has been downloaded and patched up.  The first time it happened I think I cried a little.

I also want to own up and say that I scoffed at PS+ at first.  I thought it was going to be another half-baked idea from Sony that they would abandon after a year.  I'm glad they proved me wrong.

Same here actually. The problem is that I've just bought Disgaea 4 and the patch patches a few levels that were great for grinding. My son wanted me to turn the auto update off, so I obliged and I'm not bloody happy about it! Is there a way to stop it updating one particular game?



SxyxS on 29 January 2013

ps+ may even be good for xbox live and Nintendo gamers.
The more 360owners demand such a system on their xbox for the money they are already paying for years the less MS can ignore it.Maybe it will need some time because the xbox fanboys will say"we don't need this,keep xbox live as it is and let us pay even more money" but most will ask for more than online gaming and cross chat.
MS will still make huge profits with xbox life,but not as much as they do now.
And Nintendo-well,they can't start such a service within the next two years as they haven't released enough games and can't offer constant support for Wii U+.

I bought ps+ just because of online game save(1ylod,2rrods)lost some save games(was partly my fault).Now I really like it(one year music unlimited for 12bucks) and I think it is a good thing for poorer people or teenagers with limited gaming budget.
Buy a ps3,pay 40-50dollar for ps+ .That's all you need to play 12 month dozens of games.



Gribble on 29 January 2013
SxyxS said:
ps+ may even be good for xbox live and Nintendo gamers.
The more 360owners demand such a system on their xbox for the money they are already paying for years the less MS can ignore it.Maybe it will need some time because the xbox fanboys will say"we don't need this,keep xbox live as it is and let us pay even more money" but most will ask for more than online gaming and cross chat.
MS will still make huge profits with xbox life,but not as much as they do now.
And Nintendo-well,they can't start such a service within the next two years as they haven't released enough games and can't offer constant support for Wii U+.

I bought ps+ just because of online game save(1ylod,2rrods)lost some save games(was partly my fault).Now I really like it(one year music unlimited for 12bucks) and I think it is a good thing for poorer people or teenagers with limited gaming budget.
Buy a ps3,pay 40-50dollar for ps+ .That's all you need to play 12 month dozens of games.

The problem is that MS shareholders are used to a certain annual profit. How could MS persuade them to take a hit on that profit without them losing sharehoder confidence. It might be a matter of not daring to rather than not wanting to.



MB1025 on 29 January 2013
pezus said:
MB1025 said:
bertlsenix said:
J_Allard said:
It's a great service for customers but lol @ comparing it to XBL. They are two different services that offer two different things.


Yeah its wrong to compare them cause PSN+ is in every way superior and customer friendly.
And of course they offer different thngs...PSN+ is offering a lot of value in terms of free stuff for the customer and better quality for services both share.


No XBL is the entire experiecne from online gaming, apps, and so on. PS+ is a subscription based service that has nothing to do with online gaming and apps.

You have to pay for the same apps as PS players have to, no? PS3's entire online experience is free, so you can see why people say XBLGold compares unfavourably to Plus - which is an additional service, that is still cheaper than a year of Gold.


No you comapre Xbox Live to PSN. Not PS Plus which is a side service that give you free content. You don't need PS Plus to play online. However I would rather pay 60 dollars a year to have a better online experience with first and thrid party than Sony's free experience and have have a mediocre expereince.

In the end that is Son'y fault. They had to play catch up with their entire online sevice for years and still they are far behind when it comes to cross chat and connectivity. There is a CLEAR difference between Call of Duty and Battlefield on Xbox and those same games on PS3. People who play Call of Duty on PS3 get kicked out of games on the regular for no reason. No problems on Xbox though.



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gergroy on 29 January 2013
Gribble said:
SxyxS said:
ps+ may even be good for xbox live and Nintendo gamers.
The more 360owners demand such a system on their xbox for the money they are already paying for years the less MS can ignore it.Maybe it will need some time because the xbox fanboys will say"we don't need this,keep xbox live as it is and let us pay even more money" but most will ask for more than online gaming and cross chat.
MS will still make huge profits with xbox life,but not as much as they do now.
And Nintendo-well,they can't start such a service within the next two years as they haven't released enough games and can't offer constant support for Wii U+.

I bought ps+ just because of online game save(1ylod,2rrods)lost some save games(was partly my fault).Now I really like it(one year music unlimited for 12bucks) and I think it is a good thing for poorer people or teenagers with limited gaming budget.
Buy a ps3,pay 40-50dollar for ps+ .That's all you need to play 12 month dozens of games.

The problem is that MS shareholders are used to a certain annual profit. How could MS persuade them to take a hit on that profit without them losing sharehoder confidence. It might be a matter of not daring to rather than not wanting to.

well, considering that the shareholders didn't seem to mind that much during the first 6 years of losses from the xbox I don't think that is actually that big of a deal...



MB1025 on 29 January 2013
SxyxS said:
ps+ may even be good for xbox live and Nintendo gamers.
The more 360owners demand such a system on their xbox for the money they are already paying for years the less MS can ignore it.Maybe it will need some time because the xbox fanboys will say"we don't need this,keep xbox live as it is and let us pay even more money" but most will ask for more than online gaming and cross chat.
MS will still make huge profits with xbox life,but not as much as they do now.
And Nintendo-well,they can't start such a service within the next two years as they haven't released enough games and can't offer constant support for Wii U+.

I bought ps+ just because of online game save(1ylod,2rrods)lost some save games(was partly my fault).Now I really like it(one year music unlimited for 12bucks) and I think it is a good thing for poorer people or teenagers with limited gaming budget.
Buy a ps3,pay 40-50dollar for ps+ .That's all you need to play 12 month dozens of games.


The thing is I don't see anyone from Nintendo or Microsoft demanding anything. Go all over the internet and try to find people who are asking for it.



Dark_Feanor on 29 January 2013

Live Gold will never be free. It´s a model that works.
I don´t know a single friend that unsubscribed Live Gold in the last 3 years.

I´m sick and tired of those pseudo-experts and true-fanboys ranting for everething to be free and blá-blá-blá...



gergroy on 29 January 2013
MB1025 said:
SxyxS said:
ps+ may even be good for xbox live and Nintendo gamers.
The more 360owners demand such a system on their xbox for the money they are already paying for years the less MS can ignore it.Maybe it will need some time because the xbox fanboys will say"we don't need this,keep xbox live as it is and let us pay even more money" but most will ask for more than online gaming and cross chat.
MS will still make huge profits with xbox life,but not as much as they do now.
And Nintendo-well,they can't start such a service within the next two years as they haven't released enough games and can't offer constant support for Wii U+.

I bought ps+ just because of online game save(1ylod,2rrods)lost some save games(was partly my fault).Now I really like it(one year music unlimited for 12bucks) and I think it is a good thing for poorer people or teenagers with limited gaming budget.
Buy a ps3,pay 40-50dollar for ps+ .That's all you need to play 12 month dozens of games.


The thing is I don't see anyone from Nintendo or Microsoft demanding anything. Go all over the internet and try to find people who are asking for it.

People demand changes with their pocketbooks, not their forum posts...



gergroy on 29 January 2013
Dark_Feanor said:
Live Gold will never be free. It´s a model that works.
I don´t know a single friend that unsubscribed Live Gold in the last 3 years.

I´m sick and tired of those pseudo-experts and true-fanboys ranting for everething to be free and blá-blá-blá...


I actually know quite a few people that have dropped gold over the years.  It really isn't that uncommon... People get busy and stop playing games all together all the time.  Subscribing to play online just isn't worth it in some cases...