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gergroy said:
Stefan.De.Machtige said:
gergroy said:
Stefan.De.Machtige said:
haxxiy said:
Stefan.De.Machtige said:

I'm on page 500 of the first book, and i must say the story isn't moving along. In the first chapters, like you wrote, the hinted to far more than this. It's at least a trilogy, but still there isn't a main villan or some hint of a big plot at page 500.

It's okay at this point. Not great, i'm afraid. Unless the last 200 pages are better, i'm not sure if i'm reading the sequel.

Rothfuss is a "gardener" writer. Meaning he writes the chapters without an outline, hoping it to play out by itself, and books written that way often fall prey to this, not to mention they take forever to release since you'll be endlessly revising previous pages when you got a hint of where things are going later on.

Particularly I don't quite like his books... more due to Kvothe being an annoying brat and I can't stand annoying characters than because of any plot issue. Anyways people tell me Rothfuss is good fantasy and you absolutely need to read it, so I forced myself to munch away the two books. 

Yeah, i figured that much at this point. Personally i don't think it's a good thing to write without an outline.

It seems to me that Kvothe is a Sherlock-like character who lacks a proper moriarty.

I don't know if sherlock is a good comparison.  The kingkillers play out more like a LOST kind of story and I don't know of another book series to compare it to.  LIke lost, these books dig up questions with few answers.  The reader is left creating theories on who Denna's Patron might be, what happened to modern day Kvothe, what is behind that door in the stacks, What happened to the Amir? etc.  

The books are amazing at striking up conversation and contemplation.  More so than pretty much any other fantasy series.  

I meant that he's a great/odd/briljant personality (like Sherlock), and a Moriarty-like character would balance (or challenge that). Even two big opposing characters within the specific style would have been far more appealing to me.

It would be more a clash of emotions or personalities. It could work really wel, even without a clear plot structure. They even ended Lost like that: not in some rational explanation, but in a sense of emotional connections.


yeah, but they didn't get around to introducing that opposing character until the last season.  Kvothe isn't without conflict, so I don't know if a main antagonist is really essential, at least at this point in the story.  There are obviously antagonists in the story, you have ambrose, master hem, the chandrian, as well as a variety of other antagonists that I will leave out so as to not reveal plot points.  

Like I said, I see it playing out like Lost where the mystery is slowly peeled back and the essential plot is finally revealed at which point the main antagonist will be presented center stage.  

I'm done reading the book. Finished it today. It's more than okay, but i don't think i'm going to read the second one. The first one moves very slow for 700 pages. I like big fantasy reads, but it has to thrill me. This does not, i'm afraid.

Also i learned something about reading (fantasy) books: you can mostly take the first part of a trilogy or longer as the best part. For the most thing go downhill from there. If you're not on board with the first one, you won't be with the sequels. IMO at least.

I would read the second book if i knew the writer had learned and improved on a general story arc. But i just don't think that's the case. He's looks to be going on the same path, like a lot of fantasy writers.



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Stefan.De.Machtige said:
gergroy said:
Stefan.De.Machtige said:
gergroy said:
Stefan.De.Machtige said:
haxxiy said:
Stefan.De.Machtige said:

I'm on page 500 of the first book, and i must say the story isn't moving along. In the first chapters, like you wrote, the hinted to far more than this. It's at least a trilogy, but still there isn't a main villan or some hint of a big plot at page 500.

It's okay at this point. Not great, i'm afraid. Unless the last 200 pages are better, i'm not sure if i'm reading the sequel.

Rothfuss is a "gardener" writer. Meaning he writes the chapters without an outline, hoping it to play out by itself, and books written that way often fall prey to this, not to mention they take forever to release since you'll be endlessly revising previous pages when you got a hint of where things are going later on.

Particularly I don't quite like his books... more due to Kvothe being an annoying brat and I can't stand annoying characters than because of any plot issue. Anyways people tell me Rothfuss is good fantasy and you absolutely need to read it, so I forced myself to munch away the two books. 

Yeah, i figured that much at this point. Personally i don't think it's a good thing to write without an outline.

It seems to me that Kvothe is a Sherlock-like character who lacks a proper moriarty.

I don't know if sherlock is a good comparison.  The kingkillers play out more like a LOST kind of story and I don't know of another book series to compare it to.  LIke lost, these books dig up questions with few answers.  The reader is left creating theories on who Denna's Patron might be, what happened to modern day Kvothe, what is behind that door in the stacks, What happened to the Amir? etc.  

The books are amazing at striking up conversation and contemplation.  More so than pretty much any other fantasy series.  

I meant that he's a great/odd/briljant personality (like Sherlock), and a Moriarty-like character would balance (or challenge that). Even two big opposing characters within the specific style would have been far more appealing to me.

It would be more a clash of emotions or personalities. It could work really wel, even without a clear plot structure. They even ended Lost like that: not in some rational explanation, but in a sense of emotional connections.


yeah, but they didn't get around to introducing that opposing character until the last season.  Kvothe isn't without conflict, so I don't know if a main antagonist is really essential, at least at this point in the story.  There are obviously antagonists in the story, you have ambrose, master hem, the chandrian, as well as a variety of other antagonists that I will leave out so as to not reveal plot points.  

Like I said, I see it playing out like Lost where the mystery is slowly peeled back and the essential plot is finally revealed at which point the main antagonist will be presented center stage.  

I'm done reading the book. Finished it today. It's more than okay, but i don't think i'm going to read the second one. The first one moves very slow for 700 pages. I like big fantasy reads, but it has to thrill me. This does not, i'm afraid.

Also i learned something about reading (fantasy) books: you can mostly take the first part of a trilogy or longer as the best part. For the most thing go downhill from there. If you're not on board with the first one, you won't be with the sequels. IMO at least.

I would read the second book if i knew the writer had learned and improved on a general story arc. But i just don't think that's the case. He's looks to be going on the same path, like a lot of fantasy writers.

Yes, lets just call it the "Robert Jordan Path", aka "The Path of Daggers"



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