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Don't bother fixing Detroit just yet... it'll make a great location for shooting the motion-picture adaptation of Fallout :)



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

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Normally I don't post again, but my first was a rant at why the problem exist. Now the ways to "fix" it.

1. Every house that the owner can't be found within 3 month, and is found vacant will be torn down.
2. City services will be cut to actually fully balance the budget.
3. Any gang violence will be now be a mandatory 10+ years in prison.
4. Any drugs found on a person will be mandatory 5 years in prison.
5. Remove any and all social programs that reward (give more) to mothers that have multiple kids and are on Federal/State programs
6. Make the state (yes state level) a right to work state.
7. Remove the state income tax.
8. Change the school system completely - This would be more than I can write, but in short give more local control, allow kids to be kicked out of school, and school choice must be an option.
9. Remove all SS taxes for anyone starting a new business.
10. This one probably is the most important. Make Detroit the #1 place in the U.S.A. to start a new business. Taxes, controls, regulation and speed of processing paperwork must be the best in the U.S.A... All this matter, and Detroit (and all Liberal cities) SUCK at it.
11. Stop promoting government as a replacement to Religion. Ok this is probably the most important, but the REALITY is that government does not care about you. Without a strong moral foundation, then you end up with the problems in most secular progressive liberal cities. There have ALWAYS been poor people and there always will, but to have them without a strong moral code, makes for Detroit.

These are just off the top of my head. I realize a lot of people on this site don't want to hear it, but the reality is do the opposite of what Obama is trying to do and you will grow SUSTAINABLE business.



NintendoPie said:
Cheebee said:

I see. Thanks!

Well... then I guess they'd better find something else to make, there. Or just abandon everything and level the whole thing.

It's pretty much "abandoned" already, from what I've heard.

Well then... level it! :P Or turn it into a thempark!



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Miguel_Zorro said:
The lesson is obvious - don't cling to dying industries. Also, don't take dying industries for granted and drive those jobs away. As a city/state/country, you need to shift into new industries, and help manufacturers within existing industries remain competitive.

Not only relying on dying industries is bad, but relying on one industry as whole, that is bad, too.



I live about 100 miles from D-town... I think it could be fixed.
They need a new jobs. GOOD ones. Massive crime crackdown, and to close up sections of the city and rebuild. I think it is worth a shot.



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Yes, it can be fixed, and pretty easily, too. They should just do the exact opposite of everything they've been doing for the last 50 years.



badgenome said:

Yes, it can be fixed, and pretty easily, too. They should just do the exact opposite of everything they've been doing for the last 50 years.

Liberals think they haven't spent enough money in every situation, so their solution to everything is to tax more and to spent more. Detroit people have what they wanted, a liberal theme park.



spurgeonryan said:

 

So basically it is like a mining town. Once the mine goes dry, the town dies.

Well, it seems that way. But I'm sure they could bring back more business if they tried.



Kynes said:

Liberals think they haven't spent enough money in every situation, so their solution to everything is to tax more and to spent more. Detroit people have what they wanted, a liberal theme park.

Pretty much. Although, of course, it's always the fault of everyone who left because they didn't want to live in a corrupt, inefficient, crime-ridden shithole. It all would have worked if only they had built some kind of barrier to keep people from leaving...



NintendoPie said:
spurgeonryan said:

 

So basically it is like a mining town. Once the mine goes dry, the town dies.

Well, it seems that way. But I'm sure they could bring back more business if they tried.


That's the key.

The problem is that they don't. The city is 90% liberal. Said liberals don't understand what makes a city attractive to new businesses. They continue to do things that scare off businesses, which perpetuates all of the problems the city has.

I think the first step is for the state of Michigan to step in and put the city under their control - kick out every government worker/elected official, and put it under a manager with unilateral powers. Allow them to change tax code and what's needed to fix the city. It'll take years or decades, but it can work.



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