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Nsanity on 21 January 2013

Now this just got interesting

"Before I was set straight about the teraflop comparison not working, yes. You need very powerful PC hardware to do what Durango (and Orbis) are doing. In fact, the devkits for Orbis and Durango are very, very similar"

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=46705627&postcount=652



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D-Joe on 21 January 2013
Nsanity said:
D-Joe said:
Nsanity said:

An insider thuway over on NeoGaf had this to say:

"The extra silicon on the next Xbox will be dedicated to freeing up resources for the GPU. You can expect things like MSAA, certain situations in lighting, AO, etc. to be completely free. I've heard rumors that the machine is designed to where exploiting 100% of the hardware will be very simple. Something I have not heard on Orbis. Than again, I never heard of any such Orbis special sauce either.

Sony on the other hand is using a brute force method. I have zero idea which will win, and if any one is a dev on this board or programmer, we want to hear what you have to say.

Microsoft's specs on paper suggest a smaller profile, thinner unit, and a lighter BoM. This is certain!

!You have nothing to worry about. This machine was designed by the people who made Direct X. They chose hardware for very specific reasons. You will see in the few months ahead why.

AND- cut the shit that it is weaker. It is comparable, and has a different skill set. It is like asking a Japanese Chef and an Italian Chef to make a Burrito using what is in their own kitchen. It's not apples to apples"

Even what he said is postive for Durango

But thuway is not insider either

Cyrus_ATX said:
From Neogaf:

aegies: 

I believe these are accurate, though, again, the extra hardware they don't explain will play a major part in what Durango does. I've also heard from reliable sources that the GPU CUs are super-efficient, with an aim for almost 100 percent usage at all times. The 360 hit around 60 percent, I understand. Like I've said previously, context is going to be really important for both systems.

 

Huh,he "believe"?

 

You sure about that?

Pretty

But i can't show any proof,so we need to wait official announcement to find it out



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Pemalite on 21 January 2013
Turkish said:


I hope so. I recently bought a beast game pc with GTX670, so I'm good for atleast a year. When the new GK110s come out, i'll definetly upgrade.

And btw 7970 holding you back? :/


Check my screen Resolution. ;)




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superchunk on 21 January 2013

Only read title... but its 100% wrong. Every dev / insider in gaf and others have stated that the tweaks and such in each system actually put them very close to each other. Raw specs are misleading those of you who wish to see otherwise.



Nsanity on 22 January 2013
superchunk said:
Only read title... but its 100% wrong. Every dev / insider in gaf and others have stated that the tweaks and such in each system actually put them very close to each other. Raw specs are misleading those of you who wish to see otherwise.

Even the insiders have said the same thing: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=46736397&postcount=2908



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superchunk on 22 January 2013
Nsanity said:
superchunk said:
Only read title... but its 100% wrong. Every dev / insider in gaf and others have stated that the tweaks and such in each system actually put them very close to each other. Raw specs are misleading those of you who wish to see otherwise.

Even the insiders have said the same thing: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=46736397&postcount=2908

Not sure if you're trying to say I'm wrong, but your post actually supports me. Plus I was referring to others who are far more in the know and even devs.



Nsanity on 22 January 2013
superchunk said:
Nsanity said:
superchunk said:
Only read title... but its 100% wrong. Every dev / insider in gaf and others have stated that the tweaks and such in each system actually put them very close to each other. Raw specs are misleading those of you who wish to see otherwise.

Even the insiders have said the same thing: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=46736397&postcount=2908

Not sure if you're trying to say I'm wrong, but your post actually supports me. Plus I was referring to others who are far more in the know and even devs.

I was agreeing not disagreeing.



superchunk on 22 January 2013
Nsanity said:
superchunk said:
Nsanity said:
superchunk said:
Only read title... but its 100% wrong. Every dev / insider in gaf and others have stated that the tweaks and such in each system actually put them very close to each other. Raw specs are misleading those of you who wish to see otherwise.

Even the insiders have said the same thing: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=46736397&postcount=2908

Not sure if you're trying to say I'm wrong, but your post actually supports me. Plus I was referring to others who are far more in the know and even devs.

I was agreeing not disagreeing.

ohhhhhhhhh ok. :) thought maybe you were lol



ninjablade on 22 January 2013

i will still stick with with what i said ps3 looks to be a good deal more powerful, here is a post that sums up how i feel

here is a good post from neogaf

I don't think they are trying to compete in the tech arms race with Sony. They apparently spent less of their budget on GPU, 12CUs vs 18. And made some performance sacrifices to the memory system to have the quantity required for heavy non-game functions. I don't think it's a PS2 and Xbox difference in aggregate performance. However in practical terms, I doubt the two will be as closely matched as the PS3/X360 generation. From what we "know", that is stuff DF confirmed through multiple independent sources, PS4 easily seems stronger. I think the burden of proof lies with those people that claim the large difference in GPU logic is overcome by the move DMAs. Seems like space age technology. Maybe MS did have an inside deal with AMD and its GPU tech is a few years ahead, but I doubt it.

yes we a have a developer commenting that they are close, we also had the same thing with wiiu, that developer later changed his tune from more powerful to on par with current gen and released an inferior port called darksiders.



Hynad on 22 January 2013
ninjablade said:

i will still stick with with what i said ps3 looks to be a good deal more powerful, here is a post that sums up how i feel

here is a good post from neogaf

I don't think they are trying to compete in the tech arms race with Sony. They apparently spent less of their budget on GPU, 12CUs vs 18. And made some performance sacrifices to the memory system to have the quantity required for heavy non-game functions. I don't think it's a PS2 and Xbox difference in aggregate performance. However in practical terms, I doubt the two will be as closely matched as the PS3/X360 generation. From what we "know", that is stuff DF confirmed through multiple independent sources, PS4 easily seems stronger. I think the burden of proof lies with those people that claim the large difference in GPU logic is overcome by the move DMAs. Seems like space age technology. Maybe MS did have an inside deal with AMD and its GPU tech is a few years ahead, but I doubt it.

yes we a have a developer commenting that they are close, we also had the same thing with wiiu, that developer later changed his tune from more powerful to on par with current gen and released an inferior port called darksiders.


Could you stop bumping your own thread by repeating the same damn biased shit all the time? Please?

And since you keep mentioning that the XBox 360 is your "only console this gen", why don't you give us your XBox Live ID?