Pemalite said:
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Actually i don't understand why you focus on Manufacturing part but not R&D
And even if we only talk about Manufacturing,samsung and TSM have Manufacturing Facility in China
Pemalite said:
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Actually i don't understand why you focus on Manufacturing part but not R&D
And even if we only talk about Manufacturing,samsung and TSM have Manufacturing Facility in China
Pemalite said:
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It's GPU bus width


| D-Joe said: Actually i don't understand why you focus on Manufacturing part but not R&D And even if we only talk about Manufacturing,samsung and TSM have Manufacturing Facility in China |
It's because the R&D has been done. It's been done for years, it's PC technology, they will just modify it a little.
You don't honestly think they spend years and Millions/Billions designing a new GPU from the ground up when the consoles competing platform aka, the PC already has had superior alternatives for almost a decade?
Yes, TSMC has a fabrication plant in China. One plant, that's already heavily being used and doesn't have much spare capacity. (Plus it's only 200mm wafers.)
Microsoft will use many.
Samsungs is still being built and won't be ready for awhile.

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| D-Joe said: It's GPU bus width |
On a console. It's the same thing, the CPU and GPU generally shares the same memory pool.

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Pemalite said:
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Well,they're
And what's the point of R&D has been done or not?of course it need to already done,unless MS delay it to 2014.
http://vr-zone.com/articles/rumored-xbox-720-and-playstation-4-specs-hit-the-web/18741.html Article dated 1-20-2013
"Unlike Sony, there is no rumor as to when Microsoft will be announcing the next-generation Xbox, but we hear that it is currently codenamed internally as “Durango." Similar to the PS4, the Durango will be coming with an 8 core processor clocked at 1.6GHz, and uses AMD's Jaguar architecture. However, Microsoft's console will come with 8GB of GDDR5 RAM, a healthy portion compared to the PS4’s allotted RAM serving. So far we don't have any solid word on what the graphics chip will be like other than it is supposedly on par, if not better, than the PS4."
I don't know is this is a typo but it goes to show that until we start getting more concrete facts, everything has to be taken with a huge grain of salt. Now, if the 720 really does launch with 8GB of GDDR5 RAM and reserve 3GB for the OS, then that would leave 5GB of GDDR5 RAM for games vs. the 4GB of GDDR5 RAM for PS4 (or 3.5GB when accounting what's reserved for the OS) which would explain some insiders claiming that they will both be pretty equal, perhaps with PS4 having an edge on CPU (more FLOPS) and 720 having an edge on RAM.


| D-Joe said: Well,they're And what's the point of R&D has been done or not?of course it need to already done,unless MS delay it to 2014. |
So. You are saying that Microsoft grabbed a Desktop GPU, sat on it for years spent Billions and came out with the exact same GPU? Just integrated with a CPU and eDRAM on the same die? Seriously? Try being a little more logical in your baseless arguments please.

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Pemalite said:
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And?why would MS think about that?possible doesn't mean they will
One of their RAM plan even crazier than 4GB GDDR5,if they don't use GDDR5 that means it's a lot more than 8GB DDR3
Pemalite said:
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No one said it's just little modified GPU&,and no one even said the R&D of MS for Durango project only about GPU


| D-Joe said: And?why would MS think about that?possible doesn't mean they will One of their RAM plan even crazier than 4GB GDDR5,if they don't use GDDR5 that means it's a lot more than 8GB DDR3 |
Reasons why.
1) Cheaper.
2) Easier for developers to take advantage of.
3) They did it on the Xbox 360 which incurred no negative effects from doing so, only positives.

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