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007BondAgent on 19 January 2013
lestatdark said:
There hasn't been a single FF since FFVII that the fans (and critics alike) have had an overall consensus that it was a good FF and there has been a lot of discussion that the quality of the games have been droping since then.

To some, FFX was utter garbage, to others it was FFXII, some enjoyed FFXIII while others couldn't even play 5 minutes of FFVIII. I doubt that there will ever be a consensus as there was back in FFIV - FFVII days, unless S-E comes out with a genre defining FF again, and even then i'm skeptical about how it would be received amongst such a fractured opinion.

Personally, up until FFXIII, i've enjoyed every single FF a lot, to the point of considering FFXII my second favourite in the series right behind FFVI and to me, the latest iteration wasn't up to scratch to the previous entries (haven't played the sequel).
To me the quality isn't decreasing just because one game was sub-par (I don't take in account spin-offs, because for every shitty one, there's a great one as well), because for all the poor implementation of some elements of FFXIII, as an old time follower of the series, one just have to remind themselves of the disgrace that was the original FFIII, which almost ended the series while it was still on the NES (and yes, Sakaguchi did make the worst FF so far, just as he did the best).

History show us that in this medium, people have very short memories and even shorter critical capacities when it comes to long time gaming series or fan favourite ones.

final fantasy ix is less hated then vii, making it more universally accepted :_)



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Zelhawks37 on 19 January 2013
007BondAgent said:
lestatdark said:
There hasn't been a single FF since FFVII that the fans (and critics alike) have had an overall consensus that it was a good FF and there has been a lot of discussion that the quality of the games have been droping since then.

To some, FFX was utter garbage, to others it was FFXII, some enjoyed FFXIII while others couldn't even play 5 minutes of FFVIII. I doubt that there will ever be a consensus as there was back in FFIV - FFVII days, unless S-E comes out with a genre defining FF again, and even then i'm skeptical about how it would be received amongst such a fractured opinion.

Personally, up until FFXIII, i've enjoyed every single FF a lot, to the point of considering FFXII my second favourite in the series right behind FFVI and to me, the latest iteration wasn't up to scratch to the previous entries (haven't played the sequel).
To me the quality isn't decreasing just because one game was sub-par (I don't take in account spin-offs, because for every shitty one, there's a great one as well), because for all the poor implementation of some elements of FFXIII, as an old time follower of the series, one just have to remind themselves of the disgrace that was the original FFIII, which almost ended the series while it was still on the NES (and yes, Sakaguchi did make the worst FF so far, just as he did the best).

History show us that in this medium, people have very short memories and even shorter critical capacities when it comes to long time gaming series or fan favourite ones.

final fantasy ix is less hated then vii, making it more universally accepted :_)

Freaking beastly game 9 was.

OT: Ive never played a FF past 10-2, so I wouldn't know. The games seem less magical to me, but I might want to try 12 before I confirm my opinion.



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runqvist on 19 January 2013

FF XII was excellent, XIII was not. Haven't played XIII-2 yet, but even if that is bad... there are still only 2 bad final fantasy mainline games made. Maybe next one will be good.



Attoyou on 19 January 2013

FF12 is Best FF. That is all.



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Turkish on 19 January 2013
runqvist said:
FF XII was excellent, XIII was not. Haven't played XIII-2 yet, but even if that is bad... there are still only 2 bad final fantasy mainline games made. Maybe next one will be good.


FF12 was a good rpg but not a good FF. The thing that really made FF were the sad tragic stories, and the last to have a sad story was FFX. They'll never be able to make a good FF game again. Its all beter graphics, faster gameplay, characters with ridicilous clothes from now on.



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runqvist on 19 January 2013
Turkish said:
runqvist said:
FF XII was excellent, XIII was not. Haven't played XIII-2 yet, but even if that is bad... there are still only 2 bad final fantasy mainline games made. Maybe next one will be good.


FF12 was a good rpg but not a good FF. The thing that really made FF were the sad tragic stories, and the last to have a sad story was FFX. They'll never be able to make a good FF game again. Its all beter graphics, faster gameplay, characters with ridicilous clothes from now on.

FF X was tragic? What part of it?



hatmoza on 19 January 2013

I automatically hate everyone who owns Final Fantasy the Bravest.


As for me, I've never purchased anything by Squeenix since March 2009. I was way ahead of the curve.



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Turkish on 19 January 2013
runqvist said:
Turkish said:
runqvist said:
FF XII was excellent, XIII was not. Haven't played XIII-2 yet, but even if that is bad... there are still only 2 bad final fantasy mainline games made. Maybe next one will be good.


FF12 was a good rpg but not a good FF. The thing that really made FF were the sad tragic stories, and the last to have a sad story was FFX. They'll never be able to make a good FF game again. Its all beter graphics, faster gameplay, characters with ridicilous clothes from now on.

FF X was tragic? What part of it?


The end ofcourse.



runqvist on 19 January 2013
Turkish said:
runqvist said:
Turkish said:
runqvist said:
FF XII was excellent, XIII was not. Haven't played XIII-2 yet, but even if that is bad... there are still only 2 bad final fantasy mainline games made. Maybe next one will be good.


FF12 was a good rpg but not a good FF. The thing that really made FF were the sad tragic stories, and the last to have a sad story was FFX. They'll never be able to make a good FF game again. Its all beter graphics, faster gameplay, characters with ridicilous clothes from now on.

FF X was tragic? What part of it?


The end ofcourse.

Okay. Care to expand, since I don't really see what do you mean?



rccsetzer on 19 January 2013
runqvist said:
Turkish said:
runqvist said:
Turkish said:
runqvist said:
FF XII was excellent, XIII was not. Haven't played XIII-2 yet, but even if that is bad... there are still only 2 bad final fantasy mainline games made. Maybe next one will be good.


FF12 was a good rpg but not a good FF. The thing that really made FF were the sad tragic stories, and the last to have a sad story was FFX. They'll never be able to make a good FF game again. Its all beter graphics, faster gameplay, characters with ridicilous clothes from now on.

FF X was tragic? What part of it?


The end ofcourse.

Okay. Care to expand, since I don't really see what do you mean?


The most tragic Final Fantasy is number 4.  It has many tragic moments.