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kitler53 on 19 January 2013
zuvuyeay said:
i was going to do the this gen/last gen graph but you have it sorted,need the others out to totlly judge but the 3DS blazing it,the vita & Wii having problems


yeah, i'd like to do others but the data looks weird when put in the formate i used above.  i tried to line everything for number of weeks on market.  the issue with others is that canada, australia, china, middle east, s. america are all "others" but the systems all launched in different time frames.   some of the launches are years apart.

if i can figure out a way to do something with it i'll display it but for now i'm giving up on others.



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kitler53 on 19 January 2013
Hynad said:
Cumlative?

Is it some kind of laxative, but... for cum?


i'm more of a math guy.  i'll have the spelling fixed for next update lol.



kitler53 on 19 January 2013

anyways, i didn't want to do analysis in the OP but two things i noticed in the data.

1. seems to be "common knowledge" that 3ds is killing in japan but failing in the west. but when you look at the data 3DS is behind/equal DS in japan and ahead of DS in USA. kind of challenges my arguments i've been making about smartphones killing the dedicated handheld space.

2. wiiU, 3DS, and vita's worst regions are all europe. now there could be many reasons why but with the economic crisis it's not a hard leap to think discretionary spending is down in that region. i predict sorry results for the ps4 if sony's strongest region isn't buying as much anymore.



zuvuyeay on 19 January 2013
kitler53 said:
zuvuyeay said:
i was going to do the this gen/last gen graph but you have it sorted,need the others out to totlly judge but the 3DS blazing it,the vita & Wii having problems


yeah, i'd like to do others but the data looks weird when put in the formate i used above.  i tried to line everything for number of weeks on market.  the issue with others is that canada, australia, china, middle east, s. america are all "others" but the systems all launched in different time frames.   some of the launches are years apart.

if i can figure out a way to do something with it i'll display it but for now i'm giving up on others.

i mean't the others as in PS4/720 to judge the WiiU to harshly,i think what you have done is fine,i'd be happy with just the worldwide comparison graphs myself,too much info confuses my Brain :)



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Kresnik on 19 January 2013

Bloody hell man... this was really interesting, thank you, tagging!

Kind of a shame about the idiot posts breaking up your graphs, but never mind.



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kitler53 on 19 January 2013
zuvuyeay said:
kitler53 said:
zuvuyeay said:
i was going to do the this gen/last gen graph but you have it sorted,need the others out to totlly judge but the 3DS blazing it,the vita & Wii having problems


yeah, i'd like to do others but the data looks weird when put in the formate i used above.  i tried to line everything for number of weeks on market.  the issue with others is that canada, australia, china, middle east, s. america are all "others" but the systems all launched in different time frames.   some of the launches are years apart.

if i can figure out a way to do something with it i'll display it but for now i'm giving up on others.

i mean't the others as in PS4/720 to judge the WiiU to harshly,i think what you have done is fine,i'd be happy with just the worldwide comparison graphs myself,too much info confuses my Brain :)

oh, gotcha.  i'm excited for that too if for no other reason than to finally buy a new console.



NintendoPie on 19 January 2013
pezus said:

If the gap goes down (into the negative area) it means WiiU is falling behind. 

Ok, so everything seems to be failing for everyone. That's not good. 



NintendoPie on 19 January 2013
pezus said:

Yup, but 3DS is almost on par with DS. I suspect 720 will be easily up over 360 and PS4 might be up over PS3, depending on price.

Yeah, 3DS was getting up there for a few months, then it went down again.

I don't see NexBox or PS4 outselling their older gens. I do see them selling slightly less or about the same, though.



NintendoPie on 19 January 2013
pezus said:

I mean early on. Should be very easy for 720. Pretty easy for PS4 since PS3 was $599 and didn't launch in Europe until 5 months later.

Oh, early on, I agree. NexBox should very easily out sell the 360.



kitler53 on 19 January 2013
pezus said:
NintendoPie said:
pezus said:

Yup, but 3DS is almost on par with DS. I suspect 720 will be easily up over 360 and PS4 might be up over PS3, depending on price.

Yeah, 3DS was getting up there for a few months, then it went down again.

I don't see NexBox or PS4 outselling their older gens. I do see them selling slightly less or about the same, though.

I mean early on. Should be very easy for 720. Pretty easy for PS4 since PS3 was $599 and didn't launch in Europe until 5 months later.

yeah i agree.  for as much press as ps3 gets on a "bad launch" the 360's was far worse.  wasn't until 2 years in it really picked up.  360 got to 80M with amazing longevity going up YoY for like 6 straight years.  the next xbox should have a lot more positive consumer perception and should have a far better launch.