Roma said:
it doesn't matter what i give you you're mind is already made up! |
Yup, zero evidence and it's your not you're that drives me crazy.
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Roma said:
it doesn't matter what i give you you're mind is already made up! |
Yup, zero evidence and it's your not you're that drives me crazy.
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| winston000smith said: Just thought I'd add my 2 cents. I recently worked with an ex Royal Air Force man, who after leaving the RAF worked as a pilot. Granted, I had no concrete proof of his story but I did see his military tattoos which I would take as reasonable evidence that he had been in the military. The subject of 9/11 came up in conversation. His words. "I'm sorry but 9/11 was definitely a fix". He went on to talk about aircraft, a lot of which I didn't understand, but went on to mention how flying at the angle and height of the plane that hit the pentagon was "impossible" and a lot about what should and shouldn't have been at the site of the incident. Admittedly, this is just one person I happened to meet but there are also over 1700 qualified architects and engineers, all with careers, all with letters after their names, who have serious questions about 9/11. To dismiss it all seems crazy to me. A lot of the debunking documentaries I have seen (especially the BBC ones) seem to focus on character assasination and a general sense of "We understand why people would think it looks like a controlled demolition but it's not because we say so". You would expect them to get more into the detail. |
Good post.
There are many pilots that do not believe the official account of what occurred. Many share this RAF mans feelings that it simply wasn't possible for an amateur pilot that couldn't even navigate a small plane to perform the maneuver required to impact the pentagon given its flight path.
http://www.pilotsfor911truth.org/
As a skeptic it's good to analyze data from all sides, that means truthers as well. To simply reject anything that conflicts with the official account is asinine. I don't believe the government planned this, but I'm certainly unwilling to concede that the official story is correct. There is plenty of evidence to suggest it isn't, or at least instill serious doubts.
One more time because 9/11 conspiracy loons ignore all evidence: http://www.911myths.com/index.php/Main_Page
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dsgrue3 said:
Good post. There are many pilots that do not believe the official account of what occurred. Many share this RAF mans feelings that it simply wasn't possible for an amateur pilot that couldn't even navigate a small plane to perform the maneuver required to impact the pentagon given its flight path. http://www.pilotsfor911truth.org/ As a skeptic it's good to analyze data from all sides, that means truthers as well. To simply reject anything that conflicts with the official account is asinine. I don't believe the government planned this, but I'm certainly unwilling to concede that the official story is correct. There is plenty of evidence to suggest it isn't, or at least instill serious doubts. |
What's more amazing is the amount of pilots that do believe it was the truth. You can find crazies among pilots too :)
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Ckmlb1 said:
What's more amazing is the amount of pilots that do believe it was the truth. You can find crazies among pilots too :) |
Do you have data to support your claim? I didn't see a source? Youtube isn't a source I'm willing to entertain either. I want names and numbers (amount of pilots, not phone) of these aviation professionals you say claim to believe the official account.
| Ckmlb1 said: One more time because 9/11 conspiracy loons ignore all evidence: http://www.911myths.com/index.php/Main_Page |
How about you give us some of the juicy evidence yourself?
Gribble said:
How about you give us some of the juicy evidence yourself? |
Once you provide us with evidence of a government conspiracy
dsgrue3 said:
Do you have data to support your claim? I didn't see a source? Youtube isn't a source I'm willing to entertain either. I want names and numbers (amount of pilots, not phone) of these aviation professionals you say claim to believe the official account. |
No because the ones that don't think it was faked aren't making websites called 911wasreal.com, I was just saying there are crazies in every profession that will believe conspiracy theories. Why would anyone try to put a number on it when it's probably too many of them that the conspircy quacks are gathered in the dark corners of the internet, huddled and spewing craziness. Any pilot that actually believed it was a conspiracy would have come out and said it by this point, since the amount that have done so are so few, then whatever amount that haven't said so are not truthers.
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Gribble said:
How about you give us some of the juicy evidence yourself? |
Why? Can't you read? There's too much crap to copy/paste everything. Go to the website and look up the conspiracy theories and then look at them explained and debunked.
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| winston000smith said: Just thought I'd add my 2 cents. I recently worked with an ex Royal Air Force man, who after leaving the RAF worked as a pilot. Granted, I had no concrete proof of his story but I did see his military tattoos which I would take as reasonable evidence that he had been in the military. The subject of 9/11 came up in conversation. His words. "I'm sorry but 9/11 was definitely a fix". He went on to talk about aircraft, a lot of which I didn't understand, but went on to mention how flying at the angle and height of the plane that hit the pentagon was "impossible" and a lot about what should and shouldn't have been at the site of the incident. Admittedly, this is just one person I happened to meet but there are also over 1700 qualified architects and engineers, all with careers, all with letters after their names, who have serious questions about 9/11. To dismiss it all seems crazy to me. A lot of the debunking documentaries I have seen (especially the BBC ones) seem to focus on character assasination and a general sense of "We understand why people would think it looks like a controlled demolition but it's not because we say so". You would expect them to get more into the detail. |
So, if he doesn't believe it was possibly a plane what does he believe it was?