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sidious164 on 25 January 2013

Looks like Microsoft is in great shape



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Carl on 25 January 2013

Are profits down YoY?



                            

Carl on 25 January 2013

The lack of software numbers has always bugged me. Has there ever been a reason from them?



                            

Carl on 25 January 2013
kowenicki said:
Carl2291 said:
The lack of software numbers has always bugged me. Has there ever been a reason from them?


insignificance?

Correct me if Im wrong, but doesnt every other company in the industry release software numbers?



                            

Train wreck on 25 January 2013

Lack luster quarter for Microsoft and no growth in the key areas that it needs to have it in.

No surface numbers (which is one of those important growth areas as PC sales continue to slow) only means that the sales are not that well, given Apple shipped some 22+ million ipads. Only going to get worse with the surface pro. That 8 billion dollar payout for Skype is looking like it was not worth it, I'm sure with that kind of money, they could have created something in house. Its investment in Nook turned out to be disaster.



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ethomaz on 25 January 2013
Train wreck said:
Lack luster quarter for Microsoft and no growth in the key areas that it needs to have it in.

No surface numbers (which is one of those important growth areas as PC sales continue to slow) only means that the sales are not that well, given Apple shipped some 22+ million ipads. Only going to get worse with the surface pro. That 8 billion dollar payout for Skype is looking like it was not worth it, I'm sure with that kind of money, they could have created something in house. Its investment in Nook turned out to be disaster.

I think the purchase of Skype was more to kill the competition because Microsoft already have something similar inhouse.



Carl on 25 January 2013
kowenicki said:


Well... who knows?  I dont know what you mean by every other company.  Do you mean Sony and Nintendo? or do you mean everyone that publsihes games? 

Anyhow... they dont and thats that.  Its a tiny part of what they are I guess. Tiny.  Maybe MS are more concentrated on the top/bottom line than how many units a discounted game sold in a bargain bin somewhere.  I agree it would be helpful but its not that big a deal really..

Both?

Im not talking about specific games. Im talking about total shipments. Yearly shipments. Not Halo 4 shipments. Would just be nice to know I guess.



                            

Lostplanet22 on 25 January 2013

Software shipments are getting to complicated I guess with all those digital sales... especially all those small things like new weapons/clothes dlc etc..



 

slowmo on 25 January 2013
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5.9 isnt pessimistic.  Its realistic and shows that the 360 is dong better than this site thinks.

circa 5.0m would have been realistic and accurate if we believe the numbers here are spot on.


It also proves that the PS3 did infact pass the 360. considering those predictions made a while back ended up being correct


So the PS3 is most likely undertracked even more ;)

No the predictions were estimates and they were never declared correct by Sony so it's pretty certain the PS3 didn't outship the 360 yet.  Saying the PS3 is undertracked or overtracked right now is just guessing as you have no evidence until we get shipment figures from Sony.  It's highly unlikely the PS3 shipments to increase YOY though, even if they channel stuffed.

The only thing this does prove is we are undertracking the 360 at the moment, obviously the exact amount is up for debate but it's somewhere between 300k - 1 million.

What do you mean? they were basically 100% correct with microsofts shipments, why wouldn't they be with sony's shipments

And why would sony reveal their figures early?


Maybe because their predicted Sony shipments were riiculous to start with while the 360 shipment was reasonable.  I'll happily bet with you that their figures are wrong if you put such faith in them.

Ok it's a bet

I'm just saying, they predicted microsofts shipments right, so why would they be wrong with sony's shipments? :)

We just need to agree what shipment figure they had for Sony so there is a distinct cut off

They had the PS3 at 77m at the end of december, although that number was rounded up, just like microsofts numbers

So anywhere between 76.8m-77m should be about it :)

 

If we use kow's thread For figures

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=129135

The last shipment gap was 2 million (70m vs 68m) so to purely out ship the 360 they had to ship 5.9 + 2 = 7.9 million 

I don't believe they've out shipped the 360 so I'll not hold you to Sony shipping 77 million ltd, just that they've shipped more PS3's than 360's.

In summary:

I bet Sony will ship less than 7.9 million in their financials



007BondAgent on 25 January 2013
slowmo said:
007BondAgent said:
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5.9 isnt pessimistic.  Its realistic and shows that the 360 is dong better than this site thinks.

circa 5.0m would have been realistic and accurate if we believe the numbers here are spot on.


It also proves that the PS3 did infact pass the 360. considering those predictions made a while back ended up being correct


So the PS3 is most likely undertracked even more ;)

No the predictions were estimates and they were never declared correct by Sony so it's pretty certain the PS3 didn't outship the 360 yet.  Saying the PS3 is undertracked or overtracked right now is just guessing as you have no evidence until we get shipment figures from Sony.  It's highly unlikely the PS3 shipments to increase YOY though, even if they channel stuffed.

The only thing this does prove is we are undertracking the 360 at the moment, obviously the exact amount is up for debate but it's somewhere between 300k - 1 million.

What do you mean? they were basically 100% correct with microsofts shipments, why wouldn't they be with sony's shipments

And why would sony reveal their figures early?


Maybe because their predicted Sony shipments were riiculous to start with while the 360 shipment was reasonable.  I'll happily bet with you that their figures are wrong if you put such faith in them.

Ok it's a bet

I'm just saying, they predicted microsofts shipments right, so why would they be wrong with sony's shipments? :)

We just need to agree what shipment figure they had for Sony so there is a distinct cut off

They had the PS3 at 77m at the end of december, although that number was rounded up, just like microsofts numbers

So anywhere between 76.8m-77m should be about it :)

 

If we use kow's thread For figures

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=129135

The last shipment gap was 2 million (70m vs 68m) so to purely out ship the 360 they had to ship 5.9 + 2 = 7.9 million 

I don't believe they've out shipped the 360 so I'll not hold you to Sony shipping 77 million ltd, just that they've shipped more PS3's than 360's.

In summary:

I bet Sony will ship less than 7.9 million in their financials

No, actually the PS3 has shipped 70m as off november

70.2m as off september if you count the PS2

Anyways, sony had to ship atleast 6 and a half million consoles after that date, which is possible.

 

Sony obviously stuffed the channels though.