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Forums - Sales Discussion - Prediction: Wii U to dominate & PS4 to fall behind - Jan. 2013

ninjablade on 07 January 2013

Honestly people saying or thinking ps4 will fail have no idea what they are talking about, the ps3 is selling at a heathy level  every where in the world and has tons of third party support, if it luanches at 299-399 it will sell and probably be # 1 next gen in sales in front of 720 by 10 million, it has no reason to fail even with the huge mistake this gen by making ps3 way over priced ps3 still sold well.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 07 January 2013

The PS3 is not a losing presence in the U.S. Microsoft just cut their marketshare in half. This is a ma to drketshare that has nothing to do with exclusives but rather multiplats. If Sony launches with a healthy price more people will be apt to pick up a PS4. People love to forget that Nintendo is on the losing end of the third parties and will continue too if the next consoles are as powerful as the third parties wish for them to be.



Maelstrome on 07 January 2013
007BondAgent said:
Maelstrome said:
007BondAgent said:
Wiiu is being outsold by the vita in many area's, and you actually think it will dominate?


im only seeing europe as a full territory that the vita is winning in sales regularly.

in the 6 weeks of sales the wii u has already sold around half of what the vita has done in nearly a year.

realistically though, i believe the vita is not a good indicator of the success of sony's next platform. 

and the uk :)


the united kingdom is a part of the european game industry territory.



leo-j on 07 January 2013
BasilZero said:

Next gen will be closest to a repeat of last gen (being this gen) if not the same.

The 3 regions will be mostly:

US: Microsoft with Nintendo in 2nd - Sony last
EU: Sony with Microsoft in 2nd - Nintendo last
JP: Nintendo with Sony in 2nd - Microsoft last

Everything balances out region wise, I could be wrong but oh well.


why would it be a repeat of this gen? Nintendo doesn't have a breakthrough revolutionary game changing gaming device this time.. they are just implementing two screens with a console now..

Nintendo is also now only caught up with this gen when it comes to HD visuals.. and are still miles behind in networking..

the sad part of it is.. that because of gaikai.. sony would be able to stream line it's games with PS plus probably through the next PS.. that would really put them at an advantage over the other two console makers.. and if the next PS jumps a gen in visuals like the ps2-ps3.. then why would people buy a Wii u..? For mario? I'm sure the next PS will have even better motion tech than the ps3.. which currently offers the best motion tech out of all of them.. in precision at least



 

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James_ on 07 January 2013
ninjablade said:

720 has a much better chance then the wii u, where its a huge failure in the uk and will probably be a failure in the usa.

I don't think so, Nintendo has more famous franchises than Sony and adds to it the fact that Wii used to be pre-judged by its graphics not so good as PS3. Now the Wii U will not have this problem.



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DanneSandin on 07 January 2013
happydolphin said:
Aielyn said:
I find it difficult to predict how the consoles will actually perform relative to each other without knowing things like game lineups, etc. For instance, if Sony can get more exclusive Final Fantasy, it could protect them in Japan. MS could get an exclusive FF, on the other hand, which could allow it to finally break seriously into the Japanese market.

But what interests me is the attitudes, rather than the sales numbers.

My prediction is actually one of a difference in alignment. In the 7th generation, Nintendo went its own way, while Sony and MS pretty much mirrored each other. I don't think that's going to happen again this generation.

Nintendo's path, of course, is already somewhat laid out. Their task now is to get some more exclusives and to draw more third-party multiplatform games to be best on the Wii U. But the die has already been cast, for them.

Microsoft, I think, will want to further bring PC and Xbox together. I think that their motivation for getting into the race to begin with will assert itself again, and we will see the Xbox Successor being significantly more powerful, and more expensive, with a Windows 8-like interface. I also suspect that we will see the underlying system being very similar to a PC, so much so that most Xbox Successor games will also be PC titles - MS's hope will be to make them almost synonymous, so that PC and Windows is protected.

But Sony is the interesting one. They're in an unstable financial position, meaning that they've no chance of selling their system at a huge loss as with the PS3 at the start of the 7th generation. And their experience with the high price of the PS3 at launch will force them to keep their price relatively low. As a result, I predict that the PS Successor will not be much more powerful than the Wii U - say, within a factor of 2x, comparable to the gap between the PS2 and Gamecube (but in reverse, of course). I also predict that Sony will emulate much of Nintendo's direction, with more focus on Move and other non-traditional controls.

And my main prediction is that this change in alignment in the 8th generation will result in some interesting dynamics. More games will be WiiU/PSS (Playstation Successor) or PC/XBS (Xbox Successor), rather than the 360/PS3 pairing that was most common in the 7th generation. Note that I make no prediction of which side will be more successful - that's something that is yet to be seen, although if history continues to repeat itself in this regard, the Wii U will be most successful due to its lower power (lowest-power system seems to always do best), while the XBS will struggle as developers focus more on the pair that is easier to port between. But then, it's hard to say - XBS might do best because it's the only one that developers think of as "really next-gen"... which would be sad, in my view, but I could certainly see it happening.

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DanneSandin on 07 January 2013

Why predict anything at all right now? It's impossible to predict how next gen will go down. Right now we don't even know if Wii U will be able to compete with the PS720 in terms of power ( we DON'T know; all we can do is guess).

How will Valve's new console factor in to all of this? Will Ouya make a dent in the market? Will x3ox and PS4 be close in power and battle it out as they did this gen? Or will they try to differentiate themselves from one another?

It's all to early to tell.



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ninjablade on 07 January 2013
James_ said:
ninjablade said:

720 has a much better chance then the wii u, where its a huge failure in the uk and will probably be a failure in the usa.

I don't think so, Nintendo has more famous franchises than Sony and adds to it the fact that Wii used to be pre-judged by its graphics not so good as PS3. Now the Wii U will not have this problem.

franchises are not more famouse then sony's, if that was the case why did'nt n64 and gamecube outsell ps and ps2, and wii u will be competing with 720 and ps4 and it will get blown out of the water interms of graphics, people need to understand the motion tech is the only thing that sold the wii, not the games.



CCFanboy on 07 January 2013

Ps4 coming last to market will hurt them definitely. But the real problem with sony is they have relied on third parties to carry them when they aren't reliable. Now aside from gran turismo they don't have a big game that makes people rush out to buy the system because most of the games playstation was built on can be gotten elsewhere. But I do believe that their two sluggish launches of ps3 and vita will have taught them a lesson. I expect them to stick it to microsoft hard. Also microsoft have shown holes in their tactics which isn't hurting 360 now because it is established but it would hurt them for the launch of a system.

The reason I expect them to best microsoft next gen is because I can't see them screwing up a third time. I could be wrong but messing up three times in a row (especially when you compare it to microsoft having less experience then sony in the game hardware market) just says bad things for how low the company has sunk as a whole.



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ninjablade on 07 January 2013
CCFanboy said:
Ps4 coming last to market will hurt them definitely. But the real problem with sony is they have relied on third parties to carry them when they aren't reliable. Now aside from gran turismo they don't have a big game that makes people rush out to buy the system because most of the games playstation was built on can be gotten elsewhere. But I do believe that their two sluggish launches of ps3 and vita will have taught them a lesson. I expect them to stick it to microsoft hard. Also microsoft have shown holes in their tactics which isn't hurting 360 now because it is established but it would hurt them for the launch of a system.

The reason I expect them to best microsoft next gen is because I can't see them screwing up a third time. I could be wrong but messing up three times in a row (especially when you compare it to microsoft having less experience then sony in the game hardware market) just says bad things for how low the company has sunk as a whole.

the only mistake sony made was making the ps3 way too expensive cause of blue ray. sony has plenty of games that sell great, GT5, GOW3 and the uncharted series have sold  35 million + units this gen.